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Old May 13, 2005, 16:25  
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Old May 13, 2005, 22:47   #16
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И возвращаясь, собственно, к теме топика...
http://www.agla.info/
http://www.galasla.org/
govorya ob etoj teme, hochetsya sohranyat' mostik s drugoj v sosednem razdele - o Doktore M. Savage (eto imya stanet skoro ochen' izvestnim v Erevane). poetomu budu chastichno izlagat' misli Majka...


da, nado uvazhat' pravo kazhdogo rasporyazhat'sya svoim telom, ego chastyami, vnutrennestyami, svoimi cennostyami - eto lichnoe delo cheloveka

esli takoj chelovek, gruppa - vedet sebya mirno, to net problem

no kogda posle nabora kriticheskoj massi, eta gruppa NACHINAET uzhe diktovat' svoi cennosti, navyazivat' ih, menyat' zhizn' pod sebya, prevrashaetsya v LIBERAL"NIJ mehanizm ZOMBIROVANIYA lyudej - eto kategorichski ne priemlemo

ocherednoj bastion, kotorij gei hotyat vzyat' - eto nalogovaya sfera
zadacha #1 geev v US - uzakonit' odnopolie braki (a v dal'nejshem, po-vidimomu - braki s zhivotnimi... sex s zhivotnimi uzhe davno perestal bit' ekzotikoj... skoro i eto budut pokazivat' v shkolah detishkam, chtob te ne otstavali ot vremeni)
delo v tom, chto sem'ya imeet bol'shie l'goti v nalogooblozhenii i drugih veshah
a so-zhitel'stvo odnopolih osobej ili cheloveka i zhivotnogo poka eshe ne schitaetsya grazhdanskim brakom
spori prodolzhayutsya - no shansi tradicionalistov, konservatorov - tayut s kazhdim godom

bastion #2 - sperma
netradicionalisti TREBUYUT chtobi v ih sperme ne bilo otkazano so storoni "bankov sperm".
prostie, otstalie lyudi protiv etogo, potomu chto samaya visokaya veroyatnost' opasnih boleznej (HIV...) sredi etoj kategorii
spori prodolzhayutsya
veroyatnee vsego i etot bastion budet odolen

v kalifornii eshe nedavno eto bil nekij golosochek, lyudi ulibalis' i ne pridavali bol'shogo znacheniya

no segodnya dvizhenie lyudej "netradicionistov" po sile i po tempam rosta pereplevivaet takie yavleniya kak kommunizm, Internet, Cunami, 11 sentyabrya

11 sentyabrya otobralo zhizni mnozhestva lyudej
novoe dvizhenie - otobralo i prodolzhaet otbirat' zhizni i dushi mnogih millionov

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3-4 dnya nazad chelovechestvo otmechalo Pobedu nad fashizmom v WW2

skoro, sovershenno skoro vse veshi, svyazannie s Pobedoj nad fashizmom v WW2 budut ottesneni drugim i stanut melkim prilozheniem k Glavnoj istorii stradanij geev v godi fashizma
glavnim Dnem goda budet (da kakoj tam Genocide) - gay memorial Day

ob etom uzhe segodnya govoryat rastushie kak gribi pamyatniki v San Francisco i dr. mestah
pri etom REGULYARNO snosyatsya Kresti v obshestvennih mestah
kstati, snosyatsya vsye toj zhe dvizhushej siloj

istoriya naschet Ten Commandments Memorial - eshe odna istoriya, o kotoroj mi, v Erevane ne slishali - dajte poisk po etim slovam v google
naprimer, korotko last news
http://www.kxan.com/Global/story.asp...5&nav=0s3gVXD1

ya uzhe pisal zdes' v AKB o nashej Gordosti - ob otvoevannom (Erevan OBYAZAN napisat' po-krupnomu etu istoriyu - Vazgen, slishish' - skazhi tam v Armenike pust' v Enciklopedii ne pozhaleyut 2 strok, chert poberi - nedodelannij web site http://www.mountdavidsoncross.com/cross.htm ) Kreste na gore Davidson v nai-liberajnejshem i liberal'nih gorodov - San Francisco.

kto skazal, chto Avarayr bil tol'ko v proshlom?

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stoyat lyudi, prohozhie na ulice i slishat molitvu za geev...

Spiritual Reading by Rabbi Roderick Young (of Congregation Beth Simchat Torah)

We pause to remember those past generations of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people, who lost their lives due to bigotry, hatred and ignorance. May the memories of those whom we lovingly recall tonight, inspire us to be ourselves and lead lives worth remembering.
Our thoughts turn to those who were murdered: those martyrs of our people whose graves are unmarked, and whose names are no longer known.
As we remember them, let us meditate on the meaning of love and loss, of life and death.
http://www.infotrue.com/memday2.html

... vrode nichego takogo v nej net
vsye pravil'no i logichno

no cherez kakoe vremya smotrish' na sebya v zerkalo i ne uznaesh'

pomimo visokih tehnologij, nam, armyanam, nado sledit' i razbirat'sya takzhe i v nizkih tehnologiyah, chtob ne ....
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Old May 14, 2005, 07:25   #17
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netradicionalisti TREBUYUT chtobi v ih sperme ne bilo otkazano so storoni "bankov sperm".
prostie, otstalie lyudi protiv etogo, potomu chto samaya visokaya veroyatnost' opasnih boleznej (HIV...) sredi etoj kategorii
spori prodolzhayutsya
veroyatnee vsego i etot bastion budet odolen
Тут что-то не то. Во-первых, во всех банках сперма и доноры проходят тщательную проверку и на ВИЧ и на другие опасные инфекции. Во-вторых, сейчас на долю гомосексуалистов приходится весьма незначительная часть всех ВИЧ-инфицированных, большинство носителей ВИЧ вполне традиционной ориентации и заразились им при гетеросексуальном контакте.
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Old May 14, 2005, 07:52   #18
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сейчас на долю гомосексуалистов приходится весьма незначительная часть всех ВИЧ-инфицированных, большинство носителей ВИЧ вполне традиционной ориентации и заразились им при гетеросексуальном контакте.
v Erevane - vozmojno

no ne v US

kartina v US takova

http://www.avert.org/usastatr.htm

boyus' sdelat' copy-paste of the table syuda, ne uveren , chto pojdet bez iskazhenij razmetki

dam paru cifr

statistica po muzhchinam (male)

tablica #2 sverhu (s ukazannoj stranici)
2003 god - po rasam (race/ethnicity)

White, not Hispanic

Male-to-male sexual contact (2 types) - 96,563 + 11,269 = 95%
Heterosexual contact - 5,040 = 5%

Hispanic

Male-to-male sexual contact (2 types) - 32,063 + 4,003 = 82%
Heterosexual contact - 7,637 = 18%

Asian/Pacific Islander

Male-to-male sexual contact (2 types) - 2,329 + 146 = 87%
Heterosexual contact - 349 = 13%

Black, not Hispanic
Heterosexual = 30% of total
prosto v sluchae s Black - voobshe tihij uzhas


vivod:
procent HIV u homo-kontaktov GORAZDO vishe chem u getero

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teper' chast' vtoraya - naschet testa spermi

medicinoj voobshe i etimi delami zanimaetsya v US - FDA

A new Food and Drug Administration regulation scheduled to go into effect this month calls on sperm banks to reject anonymous donations from men who have been sexually active with other men within five years -- an effort to screen out potential carriers of the AIDS virus.

...

"We also know that sperm banks can test for HIV very well now and so can screen out any infected donor... With that in place, why are gay men being rejected?"

...

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimated that 850,000 to 950,000 Americans were infected with HIV in 2003 and that about 40,000 new HIV infections occur each year. About 70 percent of new cases were in men.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...050600151.html

CNN
The FDA .... insists that gay men collectively pose a higher-than-average risk of carrying the AIDS virus.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/05/05/gay.donor.ap/

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anyway
odnu iz cifr stoit povtorit'
OKOLO 1 MILLIONA AMERIKANCEV ZARAZILIS" DO 2003 goda

PRIROST ZA GOD = 40 TISYACH

global'naya derzhava, global'nie bolezni:
HIV, ozhirenie, otupenie, liberalism....
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Old May 14, 2005, 07:58   #19
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А я то думал что ТРАНСВИСТИТЫ это те кто работают на транспорте а ЛЕСБИЯНКИ это те кто очень любят лес.
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Old May 14, 2005, 20:35   #20
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