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Old Aug 2, 2005, 22:30  
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VSEM DESIGNERAM: KONKURS!!! Armenian tourism LOGO

Dorogie designeri foruma
v Armenii razvivaetsa tourism
no poka u nashei strani netu dostoinogo touristicheskogo Logotipa...
Eto ne prostitel'no tak kak sozdat' logo dlya sobstvennoi strano dlya takix designerov kak u nas legche legkogo...

vot naprimer logotipi nekotorix stran ....
bilobi zdorogo eslibi kajdi iz vas postaralsyabi sozdat; nechto grandioznoe sovremennoe i original'noe a posle otzivov uchastnikov foruma mi reshim kakie luchshie 3~!!! nDEYUS' NAS JDET INTERESNAYA BOR'BA!!!!
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Old Aug 3, 2005, 11:20   #16
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haskaci Palladium, du celevoy tusistneri het es shpvel, dimavorel es chanaparhel es, aysinqn inch vor tex ed mardkanc du het es pahel hnaravor QCOCIC
yes patahakan hayastanum haytnvac turistneri het em shpvel, vor mer yerkrum voch mi canot chen unecel

e u bavakanin shat bacasakan baner em lsel, hyuranocayin qcocic minchev semushka.

P.S. btw mard aveli shat manrica vat zgum. che vor aravel antaneli e yerb qez xabum en asenq 10 cent ov. entalitetic arden qich e mnum cndves
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Old Aug 3, 2005, 11:42   #17
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Лав, инч туризми масин а хоскы, йерб вор Эреваниц дурс ми хат гоне нормал ханут чка.
Йерб вор хенц Эреванум спасаркман макардакы зрои вра а. (ми эрку тех чхашвац)
Эревани кентронум джур чка. Туристы тун а вардзел, у кракн а ынгел. (иракан депк).
Сах Хайастаны кехти медж корац а! Эн шурджпарин гнацинк амена инч вор чол техы кангнецинк, вотыс мекенаиц дурс ханеци, вотис так машвац чулки эр ынгац. Чол тех. Ур наюм эс кехт а. Севанн эл хеты. Де ари туристин хамози, вор мер бнутюны ктор а!
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Old Aug 3, 2005, 11:51   #18
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Ахр, туризм эт менак гарни-гехард-севан чи.. Эт мшакуйт а. Иракан кйанки мшакуйт, воч миайн арвести. Арвесты, ха, бардзр а. Байц ынданур кянки макардакы? Ай сра масин а петк нахеварадж мтацел. Хето нор ынгнел сирун ярлыкнери хетевиц.. Ахмах апранкы, инчкан эл лав упаковка анес, ми ангамиц авел чен арни...
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Old Aug 3, 2005, 12:54   #20
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koroche
Edo jan
havata vor tourismin motik kangnac mardik tenc chen karcum...brat mi nexaci bayc du tourismic enkan es heru inchkan menk Baletic
u es qez vochte sluxerov ayl hastat asum em vor inchkanel qo asacnrum chisht baner kan meka touristin da chi hetaqrqrum...
hashvi arnelov vor Cairum(Egypt) 25 million marda aprum u mihat svetofor chka...el chem asum vor mardik poxocum en qaqum shenkeri tak...maroccoi masin l chem xosum ashxarum amenzargacac tourismneric mekn unen...

et patahakan touristnric henc hima 8 hogi eritasard im mot en vor es iranc orekan mi angam tenam ya el che...
ancac tarva erexeqin vor harcneir inchkan zarmacac ein vor hayastanum senc makardaki infrastrukturaya ashxatum...kzarmanair...

incheve himi nstenk Boxoqenq esi senc eni nenca..vata esa ena sxala petka zargacnel ashxatel lavacnel u araj tanel...
nstel boxoqelov harc chi lucvum...

tak chto mer erkrin esor petka et LOGOn himi ete stex vochmek chani urish shat mard ka ov kani es uxaki arajarkum ei vor forumi masrdik el masnakcen et gordzin...

ete dem eq mi masnakcek

nsteq Boxoqeqe boxoqeq boxoqeq minchev mior haskanak vor enkan ek boxoqel dzezel arden chi dzum aprel@...
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Palladium,

Harc@ nranum e vor LOGO-i hamar petq e lurj kazmakerpel, vor ardyunqum chqcen idean u nerkajacnen irenc@. Aj dran pat&arov petq a kazmakerpel aveli lurj zevi.

Isk Turizm@ Hajastanum kzargana miajn ajn jamanak erb amen-mi "hetaqrqrutjan ket" - tipa asenq tangaran, unena gone minimal servicner@. Amen-mi nman tegi mot petq e lini jri, hangstanalu ev voch-shat tank utelu ket. El chem asum zugaranner@...

&isht e gneri mej mec teg e zbagecnum odanavi tomser@, bajc da hima maximum 600 Euro Evropajic. Ba vortegic en mnacac 2000Euron erkri mej ? Ugaki ajd package-neri heginaknerin tvum e vor ete mardiq 600 tvecin de mi 2000 el ktan eli inch tarberutyun ... bajc tenc chpetq a motenal. Bolor package-ner@ ajnpes tank en vor tvum a te el vagva or@ chi linelu u porzum en esorva orov inchqan kareli a shat kten.

Mi xosqov, turizmi zargacman hamar petq e najel herun, petq e nerdrumner anel ev chspasel vor mi-qani amsic arden ekamut klini el chem asum mi-qani taruc.
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Harc@ nranum e vor LOGO-i hamar petq e lurj kazmakerpel, vor ardyunqum chqcen idean u nerkajacnen irenc@. Aj dran pat&arov petq a kazmakerpel aveli lurj zevi.
действительно, какие будут гарантии?
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Nu i demgogiya poshla rebyat. Vi chto sovsem!!!! Topic ne o tom chto mi dumayem o turizme v Armenii a o tom chto khotim li mi chtob eto razvivalos i khochet li ktoto sdes chtob u turizma Arminii bil korporotivniy style to est daje ne korporotivniy a industrialniy znak kmotoriy budet ispolzovatsya vo vsekh reklamakh na CNN, uronews i v ostalnikh mestakh.

1. O strane. Rebyat zabudte dogmi. ni odna strana ne razvivayetsa sama po sbee ona razvivayetsya kogda est Lyudi. Krutiye. I problema ne v tom chto est ochen mnogo durakov v nashey strane a v tom chto dostoyniye i umniye lyudi ne umeyut sebya pravilno proyavlyat i realizovatx. I u nikh net voli menyat vsyo.

2. Pravitelstvo. Rebyata pravitelstvo menyayut ne govorya o nyom plokhogo a menyayut sodrunichaya s nimi i delaya ikh luchshe. Drugogo nikakogoi vikhoda net poverte. Esli vi sdelayete klassniy logotip i etot logotip budet predstavlyat nashu stranu. komu ot etogo plokho budet da konechno nikomu. Chto budet luchshe esli kakaoy to Durak sdelayet kakuyuto khernyu i eto budet v budushem imidjem Armenii. Vam budet ot etogo luchshe ili khuje. ILI luchshe esli krutiye designeri armenii sdelayut krutoy logotip i ego ves miz zapomnit na dolgo. Esli budet chtoto khorosheee i eto budet slujit vo blago nu chego tam plokhogo. Blin vi je eto ne dlya presidenta tolko delayete vi je eto delayete dlya vsego Armyanstva. Nu ne khotite ne delayte pust kakoy to ppridurok sdelayet kakauyuto khernyu i eto pust budet ispolzovatsya v dalneyshem.

3. Ceni v Armeniyu. Ya znayu tur opretorov kotoriye za 500$ + aviaperelyot ustraivayut takiye krutiye turi po Armenii chto Francuzi, Turki e vse ostalniye pozaviduyut.

4. Obman Julnichestvo - s etim vi rebyat povstrechayetes vezde kogda vas v Parise za 250 EURO taxist do goroda dovezyot potom skajete gde dorogo ili kofe za 8 Evro vipyete i toje poobshyamsya na etu temu dolgo.

5. V Armenii est mnogo vsego chego netu v drugikh stranakh. I samoye klassnoye chto v Armenii est takiye tradicii. Vortegh el mardkanac lavash tkhelu ktanen, kam karmrakhayt kbrnen ev geti apin bolorov knsten kuten, kam vortegh ashkharhum aveli lav khash u gari khorovac en sargum kan aragaci gagatin? EEEEhhhh. Khndire nranum ch vor hayastanum ed men inche amena lavna kam urish tegh chka. hayastanum ken turizmi tesakner voronq vor voch mi urish tegh chkan.


Voobshem mojno poprosit vsekh pessimistov uyti podalshe ot etogo topica i otkrit noviy est li turesticheskiy potencial v Armenii i obsujdat a sdes po moyemu nachinayetsya kreativniy process.


Tghek jan mek el kcell mcel. Ete es voreve mi ban anum em vore anum em ughaki vor inch vor ban mer erkrum aveli lav lini tenc jamanak es erbek chem mtacum vor ov indz kgci kam chi gci es patrast em anel vor da lini ev da carayi ir npatakin. meka ed logon aneluc voch voq pogh chi ashkhatelu. Aysinkn hajoghutyan depqum ashkhatelu ne tur operatornere petutyune ev ayln ev ayln.

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I esho Palladium jan. Ya ochen cenyu chto ti khoches sdes sdelat. I vprincipe vo vsyom mire takiye dela delayutsya po tomu je principu. Na osnove dukhovnikh cennostey a ne materialnostey. I takiye lyudyi bolshe vsego sobirayutsya v takikh forumakh. No odin organizacionniy moment. Gde budet ispolzovatsya etot logotip? Nujno malenkoye tekh zadaniye po moyemu.
naskolko ya pomnyu u nashey strani v budjete est dengi na reklammu po samim znamenitim tele kanalam no gde esho eto vsyo budet.? Website, jurnali, ili eto budet tak je ispolzovatsya kak znak kachestva so storoni tur operatorov. Voobshem nujno znat gde i v kakikh celyakh planiruyetsya ispolzovat etot logo.

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Hayk jan i esho est paren ochen tolkoviy v yerevane Vahan Balasnyan v forume theartbox on ochen pravilno reshayet takiogo roda zadachi.
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Sbasibo LIte za podderjku i razyasnenie vsego
es porcum em mardkanc da pbacatrem isk indz asum en xi mi ban stexcenk xi es asenk meka vochinch chi zarganum aveli lava soasenk tox zargana heto kanenk mi ban...

axr tenc vochmibanel chi lini...

Gde eto budut ispol'zovat'?

Lichno ya sobirayus potratit' nemalo svoix deneg i znayu paru drugix investorov kotorie somnoi budut prodvigat' etot logotip na Rossiskom Rinke

Kstati posle Rosii i Belorusii budet ochered' i pribaltiki tam vozmojno nam ponadobitsa i tvoya pomosch'

V danni moment razrabativaetsa ogromni portal nacelyani na etot rinok na chem toje pover'te mne nemalo deneg uxodit...

Ya sam lichno Planiruyu predstavit' etot Logotip na Tour vistavke mejdunarodnoi v Minske v konce oktyabrya...

Otkroyu i drugoi secret v danni moment gruppa designerov Raboteat nad sozdaniem etogo Logotipa takchto on budet sozdan tak ili inache...Idea bila privlech shirokie Massi Armenii v sozdanii narodnogo znaka ....

Dumayu chto nikakie den'gi e budut nagradoi luchshe chem Imya sozdatelya Narodnogo logotipa po tourismu kotori budet reklamirovat stranu all over the world...

Lite jan ti sam znaesh chto Svyazi v sootvetsvuyushix struktirax u nas kakie i chto esli budet chtoto stoishee ya smogu prodvinut' eto kuda xochehs...takje ti znaesh i moix portnerov po tourismu (nexochu po imeni nazivat') kotorie toje imeyut vse eti vozmojnosti..

takje ti znaesh chto ochen' daje veroyatno chto etot logotip popodet na stol McKinsey Senior partner

Ya lish xochu chtobi vse designeri Armenii Vmeste sozdali Simvol kotori budet predstavlyat' nashu stranu chtob eto bilo sozdanno chtoto deistvitel'no Genial'noe i chtobi mi vse ponimali chto mi vse vmeste sozdoyom svouyu stranu i ona shyas takaya kokoi mi sozdali ee kokoi sozdali ee nashi dedi i otci...

neujeli trudno sobratsa i sdelat' xoroshee dlya strani...

a S Balasanyanom mi znakomi pravda tak melkom ..poznakomilis' mi u Samo
slishal o nem mnogo xoroshego budet priyatno esli on toje podtverdit svoe prisutstvie v etom proecte...
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haskaci Palladium, du celevoy tusistneri het es shpvel, dimavorel es chanaparhel es, aysinqn inch vor tex ed mardkanc du het es pahel hnaravor QCOCIC
yes patahakan hayastanum haytnvac turistneri het em shpvel, vor mer yerkrum voch mi canot chen unecel

e u bavakanin shat bacasakan baner em lsel, hyuranocayin qcocic minchev semushka.

P.S. btw mard aveli shat manrica vat zgum. che vor aravel antaneli e yerb qez xabum en asenq 10 cent ov. entalitetic arden qich e mnum cndves
henc et em asum ..du lsel es isk es da tesnum em u official kez asum em vor touristin qcel@ etkan hesht ban chi u havata henc esor uxix 3 jam araj Jazzveum porcecin kcel 5 mer touristnerin 600 dram( zakaz@ sxal haskacel er spasvor|@ u et sxal zakaznerl het@ hashverl er hashvi mej) inche s karcum da nrar hajoxvec?
u sem vor vochmek mi varkyan nuynisk chmtacec vor iran uzum ein kcein
vortev nuyn banr irnac erkrnerum en handipum mardik...

inchvor Qcoci bar@ shat cavagina qo mot
mardun @ndanrapes Qcel karelia miayn et mardu sxali patcharov...xelok lineir chqcein...erbek ches tesni europayum mi mard myusin vstahi ... 100$ pox en talis mekin vor poxanci keroj@ tuxta pahanjum gravor vor es vercrevi es gumar@ mihatel taluc stacxkana en vercnum...andzamb im heta patahel...
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OK lav hayastan' sarqeq turizmi yerkir...
da dzer uzacn e, u apreq dzer uzac hayreniqum
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я сам хотел видеть Армению как технологическо-развитую страну. хотел видеть тенденцию в этом направлении.

Для этого я сделал, то что я смог, например оставил свой статус в США и приехал в родину. более 4 года друзья смеялись, когда я говорил категориями патриотизма, более 4 года не хотел понимать мигрирующих людей.

Но увы.

туризм, туризм, асонк адонк, хос ен хон ен, шалам, былйорм,...

постепенно становится ясным тенденция, наше руководство хочет превротить нацию (оставшихся здесь) в патери так какох

я не против но !!!!
хочу что все люди которые меня знаю знали что я в этом фарсе не участвыю.

И я уже понимаю очередь людей около МИД а. (справка о несудимости, полис клиранс)

Это для эмиграционных виз. Для не эмиграционных виз это бумажка не нужна.


так что, КЕЦЦЕ ТУРИЗМ' у патери так какохнер'
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Aper du mexk es ...lurj mexk es...es senc karcum u mtaucum inchkan lava vor qo nman mardik qchacel en es erkrum
lurj anhnarina bayc kan senc mardik...u havata qo nman mtacox mardik vochnchov es erkrin chen kara ognen u gites inch lava vor ud stexc che su vonc ases Kamalyan@ es post@ qo nmanneri tex@ chi...menk stex porcum enk stexcagorel isk du mtel es u voria voria voria ....haskacank....vor qez inchvor banov nexacrel en...bayc chi kareli sprel et pesimizm@...
Ete kan mardik ovker Patrastvum en masnakcel es mijocarman@ tox uxaki gren vdra masin vor es imanam vor mardik kan...
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