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Old 01.04.2002, 23:15   #1
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Question Obyazany li my chem-to svoim roditelyam?

V svoe vremya roditeli otdali nam mnogo sil. Kak schitaete - obyazany li my im otvechat' tem zhe, esli da to naskol'ko eto pervichno? ja byl udivlen, kogda uznal mnenie svoej materi o tom, chto deti nichem ne obyazany svoim roditelyam, pust' dlja nix v pervuju ochered' budut oni sami (vsmysle my) i ix deti (vsmysle nashi deti)...

Xotelos' by uslyshat' mnenie predstavitelej starshego pokolenija, u kotoryx uzhe est' deti...
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Old 01.04.2002, 23:28   #2
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Dumayu tvoya mama ochen' mudraya jenshina potomu chto ya dumayu chto kajdih chelovek sam dlojen reshat' chto i komy i skol'ko on doljen esli vopros idyot o moral'nom dolge. Ya dumayu eto bilo bi cinichno esli bi roditeli govorili daje namekali naskol'ko mi im doljni, eto zakon prirodi, ti kormish svoyo dityo i ne trebuesh nichego obratno, a v chelovecheskom mire pust' rebyonok sam reshaet doljen li ili net.
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Old 02.04.2002, 00:09   #3
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Вопрос риторический...
Мы сначала берем в долг у родителей, потом отдаем им наш долг, потом даем в долг детям.
При нашем менталитете понятие РОДИТЕЛИ священно и отношение к ним в обяснениях не нуждается
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Old 02.04.2002, 00:39   #4
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Originally posted by Griffon2-7:
V svoe vremya roditeli otdali nam mnogo sil. Kak schitaete - obyazany li my im otvechat' tem zhe, esli da to naskol'ko eto pervichno? ja byl udivlen, kogda uznal mnenie svoej materi o tom, chto deti nichem ne obyazany svoim roditelyam, pust' dlja nix v pervuju ochered' budut oni sami (vsmysle my) i ix deti (vsmysle nashi deti)...
снимаю шляпу...
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Old 02.04.2002, 01:07   #5
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Roditeli, konechno, jdut kakoj-to otdachi v otvet na zatrachennye usiliya. Vopros v tom, chto je yavlyaetsya otdachej?
Pomoemu, luchshaya otdacha dlya roditelya, eto udachnyj jiznennyj put' chada.
Dumaya o sebe, kak o budushem roditele, prixoju k vyvodu, chto mne bylo by priyatno uvidet' uluchshennuyu versiyu samogo sebya. Skoree vsego, ya ne odinok v etom.... Podobnyj vyvod voznikal v obshenii so mnogimi lyud'mi starshego pokoleniya.
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Old 02.04.2002, 15:11   #6
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to Aram

thanks, xotya o kom idet rech' - ne ponyatno

to Tumanyan
Pomoemu - eto neskol'ko nepravil'no rassmatrivat' svoego rebenka, kak prodolzhenie samogo sebja. Vozmozhno ja neskl'ko utriruju, no ja schitaju, chto mnogo chego v svoej zhizni dolzhen reshat' sam rebenok, roditeli lish' po vozmozhnosti nezametno dolzhny ego napravljat' na put' istinnyj. Ja ne budu davit' na svoego rebenka, chtoby on (ili ona ili oni ) stal programmistom...

Nu a v celom kazhdyj roditel' postaraetsya ne dat' rebenku sover****' te zhe oshibki, chto i on sam, no i na etot schet u detej raznye mnenija. Sami znaete

Vopros s moej mater'ju voznik togda, kogda ja stojal pered resheniem uexat' iz Armenii ili net. Ja sam schitaju sebja v nekotoroj stepeni objazannym pered svoej sem'ej i domom.
Raznica na moj vzgljad v tom, chto roditeli ne pokinut svoego rebenka, potomu chto im nado ego vospityvat', i lish' v opredelennyj moment soglasyatsya otpustit' ego ot sebja. Nu a rebenok, sam schitaet, chto ujti mozhno v ljuboj moment... Nado lish' vypolnjat' pered sem'ej kakie-libo obyazannosti, dopustim finansovye...

I v konce koncov nado zhe komu-nit' v dome gvozdik v stenku zakolotit'....
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Old 02.04.2002, 19:15   #7
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My obyazani im VSEM I VSYA chem imeem ... i eto daje ne podlejit obseujdeniyu!!!
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