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Old May 6, 2002, 13:18   #1
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Question Будущий Ереван-каким он будет?

Vot u menya poyavilsya takoy vopros

Gorod postepenno prevratshaetsya vo chto-to. V goroge uje net tramvaya (ix ostalos' vsego dva nomera), trolleybusov toje vrode snimayut. Tak chto ostavlyayut v gorode? Odni marshrutki?? A pensionerov kuda denemsya?

Nachalis' stroitel'nye raboty Severniy prospekt, remontiruyut ulicy Xanjyan, Shaumyan, Nalbandyan...

Nu kakim budet gorod?

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Old May 6, 2002, 17:34   #3
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a chto stroit' budut..kazino, bary vsjakie i t.d. i t.p...eto na severnom prospekte to
tol'ko vot nashe pravitel'stvo eto (ravno kak i blagosostoyanie nashej nacii) sovsem ne volnuet
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a chto stroit' budut..kazino, bary vsjakie i t.d. i t.p...eto na severnom prospekte to
tol'ko vot nashe pravitel'stvo eto (ravno kak i blagosostoyanie nashej nacii) sovsem ne volnuet
A kto skazal chtyo Casino budut stroit'? Sejchas sushestvuet zakon kotorij ne pozvalaet rabotat' casiono v 50-i killometrov ot goroda, tol'ko v tom sluchae razrishaetsja esli eto casino vxodit v gostinichnij kompleks. NA SEVERNOM PROSPEKTE CASINO NE BUDET.
A chtjo ploxovo v barax, restoranax i cafe?
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Sejchas sushestvuet zakon kotorij ne pozvalaet rabotat' casiono v 50-i killometrov ot goroda, tol'ko v tom sluchae razrishaetsja esli eto casino vxodit v gostinichnij kompleks.
вот как? этот закон принят в армении? а то внутри города, в его центре, сейчас существуют казино.
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Old May 6, 2002, 20:13   #7
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Sejchas sushestvuet zakon
smeshno
strojat chto xotjat, gde xotjat i kak xotjat
gorod pri etom terjaet svoj oblik, svoju individual'nost'
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gorod pri etom terjaet svoj oblik, svoju individual'nost'
To chto sejchas delajut v osnovnom po proektu Tamanyana, a on bil vilikim arxitektorom i imenno blagodarya emu nash gorod imeet "individual'nost'"
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gorod pri etom terjaet svoj oblik, svoju individual'nost'
To chto sejchas delajut v osnovnom po proektu Tamanyana, a on bil vilikim arxitektorom i imenno blagodarya emu nash gorod imeet "individual'nost'"
ну насколько мне известно, согласно его проекту город не должен был настолько разростись. так что не надо нынешнее строитиельство приписывать его авторству - несоответствие плану имеется уже давно, и не надо ожидать, что все будет гениально
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To chto sejchas delajut v osnovnom po proektu Tamanyana, a on bil vilikim arxitektorom i imenno blagodarya emu nash gorod imeet "individual'nost'"

tumanyan byl velikim arxitektorom v sovetskie gody!! a seychas ego plan my postepenno rushim i prevratshaem v bol'shuyu derevnyu.

A naschet togo, chto vy skazali o Cazino po zakonu.....eeeeeeeeeeeexxxxxxx, kakoy etshe tut zakon!!?? Razmechtalsya? seychas pochti nikakogo zakone netu. a lish' sam vladelec gde i kak xochet tak i stroit, lish' by on daval rukovoditelyu baski-mani-mani.

davay eto ostavim, a kakoe pravo rukovoditeli imeyut snimat' tramvai i trolleybusov? Tebe ochen' nravit'sya marshrutkov, kotorye ne umeyut soblyudat' pravilo dorojnogo dvijeniya. I ostanavlivayutsya po seredine ulicy!

Ya xochu chtob pravitel'stvo vostanovil gorodskoy transport (tramvay i trolleybus) special'no dlya pensionerov i nujdayuchim.

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ну насколько мне известно, согласно его проекту город не должен был настолько разростись. так что не надо нынешнее строитиельство приписывать его авторству - несоответствие плану имеется уже давно, и не надо ожидать, что все будет гениально
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Ya immeju vvidu centr goroda.
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A naschet togo, chto vy skazali o Cazino po zakonu.....eeeeeeeeeeeexxxxxxx, kakoy etshe tut zakon!!?? Razmechtalsya? seychas pochti nikakogo zakone netu. a lish' sam vladelec gde i kak xochet tak i stroit, lish' by on daval rukovoditelyu baski-mani-mani.
Ya ne ponimaju, chto zaotnoshenie u vas k pravitel'stvu, za poslednee vremja mnogo chego bilo sdelano i mnogie zakoni sobljudajutsja.

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Tebe ochen' nravit'sya marshrutkov, kotorye ne umeyut soblyudat' pravilo dorojnogo dvijeniya. I ostanavlivayutsya po seredine ulicy!
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Srazu vidno chto ti ne voditel', ya na mashine uje 5 let, bol'she chem tramvaji i trollebusov nishto nemeshaet, odin tranvaj i odin trolleybus vstajut na ostanovke i stojat po 10-20 minut a za eto vremja obrazuetsja ogromnaja probka
Ot runka na Komitasa do mosta Lambada. A marshrutki xotja oni toje ne ochen' sobljudajut, no oni xot' GAIshnikov bojatsya.
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odin tranvaj i odin trolleybus vstajut na ostanovke i stojat po 10-20 minut a za eto vremja obrazuetsja ogromnaja probka
мне такое видеть не приходилось, может это только на определенных остановках. а вот что делают маршрутки на всех (!) остановках: из-за того, что она остановливается где пассажир прикажет, остановки, точнее, места сбора людей, некотролируемо смещаются чуть вверх - там, где можно маршрутку перехватить пораньше. и ловят ее там. если остановка у перекрестка, то маршрутки начинают останавливаться, заграждая перпендикулярную (если впереди стоит другая маршрутка) дорогу или зебру. если бы не они, остановки находились бы на своих местах!
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мне такое видеть не приходилось, может это только на определенных остановках.
Komitasi shuka, metro barekamutjun. Es amen or @ndexov avotjov ancnum em u liqi qfurner em tapum
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а вот что делают маршрутки на всех (!)
Prosto marshrutok gorazdo bol'she poetomu oni bol'she v glaza brosajut'sja, no troliki delajut toje samoe. Esli marshrutki perekrivajut zebru to trolik ves' perekrjostok
Zdes' pasajiri vinovati, sejchas troliki toje ostanavlivajutsja gde ostanovjat, tak chto ANHUJS ENQ
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gates jan!!
i mne vidno chto vy zdeshnye.
posmotrite kak rabotayut marshrutki v Tbilisi, v Moskve i v drugix gorodax Rossii.
Esli v marshrutke sidenie perepolneny, ne imeet pravo shofer perepolnyat' marshrutku. Stoyat' v marshrutke NELIZYA!!!!! Esli tak budet rabotat' marshrutku ne perepolnyaya, to trolleybusy i tramvaui ne budut 10-15 minut stoyat' na ostanovke. A vo-vtoryx ceny marshrutki sovpadayut ceny tramvaya i trolleybusov.

Vot ya byl nedavno v Tbilisi. Marshrutkov u nix bol'she chem u nas, no sest' mne ne udalos', tak kak shofer ne imeet pravo perepolnyat' marshrutku, raz sidenie perepolneny, on ne ostanavlivaetsya, a proezjaet mimo, krome togo, ostanavlivayutsya tol'ko na ostanovkax i ne drug na druga, a po ocheredi, poka pervaya ne proedet, vtoraya ne smeet otkryvat' dveri. cena tramvaya i trolleybusov 10 tetri (eto 25 dramov), avtobusy i metro - 20 tetri (50 dramov), a marshrutki ot 30-50 tetri (75-125 dramov) Vot tak u nix vse transporty zamechatel'no rabotayut. Trolleybusy za 5 minut proezjal 3-4 ostanovki.

Vot tak doljni rabotat nashi marshrutki, a tak inache ya protiv Erevanskix marshrutkov. Ya dumayu ne o sebe, a o pensionerax i nujdayutshim (toje samoe, chto i moi babushki i dedushki).
A drugie ne jaleyut svoix babushek i dedushek?

i krome etogo, razve marshrutki delayut Erevan krasivym?

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Es qo het lriv hamadzain em, ja chasto bivaju v Moskve i ya ezdil na ix marshrutkax, no oni ostanavlivajut'sja po trebovaniju pasajira.
S drugoj storoni nash gorodskoj transport ubitochnij poetomu, net smisla ego soderjat' na bjudjetnie den'gi.
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