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Old 15.09.2003, 21:16   #1
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Очень прошу не оффтопить тут, а вопросы задавать по существу.
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Old 15.09.2003, 21:28   #2
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chto delat' s izobrajeniem ivritskix bukv, podumaem pozje, i alfavit ya privedu polnostiu pozje (mne cherez 5 minut bejat' v college). A poka chto vot infa k oznakomleniyu:

v ivrite NET glasnix bukv.

est' soglasnie, i est' bezglasnie.

chtobi vozmojno bilo eti bukvi sostavlyat' v slova i chitat', ispol'zuiutsya oglasovki - special'nie znaki v vide grupp iz tochek i chertochek pishushiesya neposredstvenno pod bukvoi (inogda ryadom) i proiznosyashixsya posle nee.
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Old 15.09.2003, 22:37   #3
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> v ivrite NET glasnix bukv.
Да, я слышал. Кажется в арабском тоже так.

Насчет букв:

ﬡﬢﬣﬤﬥﬦﬧﬨ﬩שׂשׁשּׁשּׂצּפּלּךּזּהּכֿפֿﭏ ץא
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Мда, кажись не все получается
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Old 16.09.2003, 03:00   #5
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mda...

ne ochen'.

itak, mojno vospol'zovat'sya uslugami sita

http://www.jewfaq.org/alephbet.htm

mojet bit' tam daje luchshe obyasnyayutsya osnovi yazika chem eto mi budem delat' zdes', no kak uj mojem
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Old 16.09.2003, 03:02   #6
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Itak vot alfavit:
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eto pechatnie bukvi.

k propisnim mi pereidem popozje, posle oglasovok (nekudot).

["nekudA" - (udarenie na A) - na ivrite oznachaet tochka, "nekudOt" - mnojestvennoe chislo, sootvetstvenno tochki, oznachaet "oglasovki"]

vot i pervoe slovo na ivrite

zamett'e chto nekotorie bukvi v transkripcii zvuchat odinakogo. v chastnosti: Kaf, Mem, Nun, Pe i Tzade.

Eto ne opechatka. eti bukvi deistvitel'no pishutsya po raznomu, esli oni naxodyatsya v konce slova, xotya chitaiustsya odinakogo. E.g. Sushestvuet Kaf i Kaf Sofit (konechnaya), Mem i Mem Sofit (konechnaya) i t.d.

["sof" - konec, "sofIt" (udarenie na i) - konechnaya (ona)*]

*ob etom pozje rod (jenskii, muskoi, ochen' interesno sebya vedet v ivrite)
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Any questions so far?
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Old 16.09.2003, 03:19   #9
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Дай переварить

мне как минимум 2 дня на это нужно. пока запишу, пока выучу наизусть.

Спасибо!

P.S. Теперь надо, чтобы ты своих учеников подгонял ( тнайинэ чэс грэл? папаид касэс вахэ га дпроц)
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Пара вопросов о том какие звуки представляют буквы:

Qof - Ք ?

Tzade - Ց ?

Pe - Փ ?
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Old 16.09.2003, 03:35   #11
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Izvini, no ya viju tol'ko kubiki.

Qof - (v privedennom mnoiu obrazce 4ya bukva v tretyem ryadu; po proiznosheniyu v slove pravil'nee otnesti etu bukvu k russkoi bukve K a ne k Q)

Tzade - v slove chitaetsya kak v russkom slove TZenzura. (imeet "Sofit" versiyu napisaniya)

Pe - P. toje imeet konechnuiu formu napisaniya krome togo v zavisimosti ot oglasovki mojet oznachat' bukvu "F"
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было время я тоже изучал, но дальше алфавита не пошел...
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kak interesno! Spasibo groulu za topic i DaNYeru za predostavlennuyu informaciyu... M@ s budushego goda nachnem izuchat' ivrit, i mne [email protected] ochen' interesno chitat' vse eto..

xot' ya i ne znayu grammaticheskuyu strukturu ivrita, na moy vzglyad, mejdu nim s arabskim mnogo obshego ... V arabskom toje "net" [email protected].. Nu a nazvaniya bukv v alfaviiite prakticheski polnost'yu sovpodayut...
Prepodavatel'nica toje govorila, chto znaya arabskiy, legko [email protected]' i ivrit...

Yeshyo raz spasibo...

Uznayu chto novogo i interesnogo, obyazatel'no dam znat'...

[offttop] DaNYer, a otkuda takie znaniya, esli ne sekrat? Davno izuchaesh'? Xobbi ili special'nost'? (izvini za [email protected])
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Old 16.09.2003, 06:40   #15
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чем отличается написание Samech oт Мем?
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