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Old 26.02.2005, 10:58   #16
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Podtverzhdeniy etim zayavleniyam PA NATO nemalo.
Vse budet yasno, posle vstrechi v Prage, i posleduyushey vstrechi prezidentov.

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Old 26.02.2005, 17:18   #17
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Old 28.02.2005, 07:36   #18
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Я неоднократно слышал заявленич некоторых наших партийных и политический деятелей, резко отрицательного характера по поводу данного планан НАТО. Так вот, я никак не могу взять в толк, чего им еще надо, как тут было замнечано, это откровенно проармянское решение.
Кто может об'яснить, может там есть подвох ?
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Old 28.02.2005, 07:43   #19
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Tam net podvokha.
Esli korotko - reshenie dolzhno byt' s odinakovoy gorechyu byt' vstrecheno i v Armenii i v Azerbaijane.

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Old 28.02.2005, 07:50   #20
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Подвох в референдуме. Непонятно зачем его ещё раз проводить. Он уже был в 91 году. И потом, референдум о чем? О независимости, присоединении к Аз-ну, прис. к Армении? Армянская сторона настаивает на легитимности независимости Карабаха, если они соглашаются с этим планом, значит, нынешняя армянская позиция признается несостоятельной. Думаю, что так.
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Old 28.02.2005, 07:53   #21
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Na samom - to dele - referendum - eto mekhanizm ottyagivaniya voprosa dlya togo, chtob on proiskhodil uzhe ne pri prezidente I.Alieve.

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Old 01.03.2005, 14:58   #22
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смотрите что я нашел

http://www.day.az/news/armenia/21212.html
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Old 01.03.2005, 15:33   #23
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И зачем надо было помещать эту инфу, тем более прямую ссылку? Куда смотрят модераторы,не пойму я.
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Lichno ya ne predstavlyayu sebe protses peredachi zemel' i mne trudno ponyat' printsyp po kotoromu my doljny vernut' otvoyovnnye zemli nashei armenii.
Pascal et hesht grumes vernut - baits xi ?!!!!!
Eti zemli ne budut vozvraschenny ni pod kakim sousom. Primer - kuril'skie ostrova.
Tam -yavny zaxvat, a u nas -eto istoricheskoe pravo nasledstva..
Iz za vot takix vor resheniy Armeniya na segodnyashniy den' yavlyaet soboyu to chto ty vidish. Turqer@ mez minchev hima vochmi hox chen veradartsre. Patkeratsra vor Aderbejan@ haxter es kriv@ u Xarabaxi het miasin hayastani 1/3rd@ graver. Du mtatzumes vor iranq khamadzainvein gone 1-i qarakusi metr het tain - kyanqum chhavatas. Vochmi ktor het chi trvelu - menq lriv lavenq, to iranq mtatzen. Batsi tranits kareliya naev haka groh gortzedrel - "Qyalbadjar@ hin haikakan hoxera u Aderbejan@ petqe het veradatsni et hoxer@, menq daje ekexetsi unenq antex". Chi kareli hima texum mnal. Misht petqa fokusits paxtsnel es harts@. Vochmi konkret hartseri voroshman shurj anqam petq chi xosal. Enqan piti frtsnes vor jamanak antsni, saxi zailan gna )) Paxstakanner@ jamanaki @ntatsqum tzeranan mernen, irant erexeqi vejnel chi lini arden. Seichas nado proyavlyat' maksimal'nuyu politicheskuyu gibkost' i vertixvostnichestvo - tyanut' vremya. A esli seichas reshat' etot vopros to reshenie budet ne samym poleznym dlya nas. Vopros karabaxa reshyon, inostrannaya armiya ne mojet voiti v otkryty voenny konflikt, a azery ssut(i pravilno delayut). Ne stoit obraschat' vnimaniya na eti pozy i ul'timatumy. Lojili my na ul'timatumy - anox@ anuma. Davaite bez isteriki popytaemsya uderjat' vsyo chto vernuli
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nemnogo patetiki
za takie nazvaniya kak, Fizuli, Agdam, Lachin i.t.d. zaplacheno ludshei chast'yu genofonda natsii. Avon zohvatz chliner hima infarkter statse.
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Old 02.03.2005, 08:01   #26
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Originally Posted by Davka
Lichno ya ne predstavlyayu sebe protses peredachi zemel' i mne trudno ponyat' printsyp po kotoromu my doljny vernut' otvoyovnnye zemli nashei armenii.
Esli korotko - to vozvrat osvobozhdennykh territoriy - eto osnovnaya garantiya nepovtoreniya voyny, i spokoynoy realizatsii prava Karabakha na samoopredelenie. No eto tak. Formal'no.
Na samom-to dele eti territorii byli zanyaty dlya sokrasheniya protyazhennosti linii fronta. T.e. ikh osvobozhdenie bylo tekhnicheskim momentom. Narod Karabakha provel referendum o samoopredelenii v granitsakh byvshego NKAO, i, kak sledstvie imenno v etikh granitsakh on i budet zhit'.

RE: Vtoraya chast' posta.
Tut konechno nekaya dolya pravdy est'.
Odnako, pover' mne na slovo - obsuzhdenie etogo voprosa ne sovsem korrektno v ramkakh publichnoy diskussii, i sootvetstvenno ya predlagayu tebe obsudit' eto delo kak nibud' pri lichnoy vstreche.

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Old 02.03.2005, 08:02   #27
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nemnogo patetiki
za takie nazvaniya kak, Fizuli, Agdam, Lachin i.t.d. zaplacheno ludshei chast'yu genofonda natsii. Avon zohvatz chliner hima infarkter statse.
I eto verno.
Tol'ko zaplacheno ne za Agdam, a za sozdanie bufernoy zony vokrug Karabakha. Esli neobkhodimost' v bufernoy zone otpadet - neobkhodimost' v etikh zemlyakh tozhe otpadet.

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Old 03.03.2005, 19:29   #28
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http://www.usa.am/news/2005/february/news022805.html
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Old 03.03.2005, 21:39   #29
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i escho po teme :
http://www.armenialiberty.org/armeni...47719448C3.ASP
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Old 03.03.2005, 23:06   #30
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Tol'ko zaplacheno ne za Agdam, a za sozdanie bufernoy zony vokrug Karabakha
Eto togda bylo bufernoi zonoi, a v buduschem da i seichas (pri pravil'noi gosudarstvennoi politike) eto mojet stat' ochen' daje neploxim uchastkom rodiny. Uchityvaya kakie bogatye i plodorodnye eto zemli. Garantom mira ne mojet yavlyatsya polnaya beskorystnost' s nashei storony, edinstvenny garant mira - eto moschnaya, mobil'naya armiya i stabil'no rastuschaya ekonomika, pitayuschaya etu armiyu.
Miqich haeren grenq))
Hishatsnem en orinak vor ete Aderbejan@ haxter u mer hoxer@ zavter - vochmi depqum menq et hoxeri eres@ el cheinq tena, u kap chuni te inchuen iranq et hoxer@ zaftel (bufernaya ili ne bufernaya) - menq et hoxer@ het cheiq stana u verch, hastat gidem vor duel dra mej ches kaskatzum. De hima ainpesa statsvel vor menqenq haxtel u zaftelenq bavakanin metz ev hetaqrqir taratsqner harevan hakarakord erkrits. Haxtoxnerin chen datum. Vochinch mi 20-n tari kasen -Haer@ baits es ich vatnen, et xexch harifneri hoxer@ zaftel u chen talis het.- baits heto et sax kmoranan u tqats kunenan te aintex 35-ng tari arach incha katarve. Aderbejantsineri het chi kara xaxaxutyun lini mi vaxt jamanak, shat aryuna tapvel u et sax moranalu kam nerelu hamar iroq ahreli jamanaka petq. De isk qani vor tshnamienq - vertsrelenq piti pahenq. Du et axmax alievi ul'timatumneri vra qich ushadrutyun dartsre - igra na publiku. Inq@ dzev chuni urish , kes milionits avel paxstakan uni, vor etel chani klaren.
Nu i v zavershenie Ty je ne dumaesh chto Armenii snachala postavyat ul'timatum i po istechenii sroka napadut ))))? Eto bylo by slishkom blagorodno dlya nix - ty tak ne schitaesh?.
Da i eschyo dobavlyu chto esli by Aliev bezotryvno naxodilsya na postu glavy gosudarstva, to etoi voiny by ne bylo, nu i on byl ochen' zainteresovan v reshenii voprosa mirnym putyom - daby ne ostavlyat' takuyu problemu synu. I uj navernyaka pered smert'yu on ne naputstvoval svoego synaa slovami tipa - Otvoyui nashi krovnye zemli synok )). Net on naoborot skazal utryasi vsyo mirnym putyom, i voinu s Armeniey ne nachinai !!! eta versiya bol'she podxodit.
P.S. Po vozvraschenii na rodinu s udovol'stviem vstrechus', podiskutiruem (kak eto shas nazyvaetsya).
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