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Old 21.08.2006, 15:20   #526
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galopam pa ivropam

P.S. kto skajet chto eta flood pust' pervym brosit v neyo kamen'
Конечно флуд, а что же?
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Old 21.08.2006, 16:16   #527
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Eta pragnoz pabedy nashei gosudarstvennosti nad fsemi etimi ljedimakratiyami ivrapeiskimi - da ya figural'na vyrazilsya, a mne tychut chto ya mol flooder..
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Eta pragnoz pabedy nashei gosudarstvennosti nad fsemi etimi ljedimakratiyami ivrapeiskimi - da ya figural'na vyrazilsya, a mne tychut chto ya mol flooder..
Надо буквально выражаться, может тогда не сочтут за флуд.
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nistoit pragibatsya pad izmenchivyi mir
pust' ludshe on pragnyotsya pad nas

Vot ana vasha dimakratiya !!!
Prava golasa lishayut - vidite ni tak sfarmuliraval, slavechki nite padabral..(agarchyonna maxnuv rukoi)
da ya gramate niabuchin !!! nekagda byla !!! rabotal u stanka pa 18-t' chisov vden' ...
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nistoit pragibatsya pad izmenchivyi mir
pust' ludshe on pragnyotsya pad nas

Vot ana vasha dimakratiya !!!
Prava golasa lishayut - vidite ni tak sfarmuliraval, slavechki nite padabral..(agarchyonna maxnuv rukoi)
da ya gramate niabuchin !!! nekagda byla !!! rabotal u stanka pa 18-t' chisov vden' ...
Прикольно излагаешь, жаль, что не по делу.
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Ну, а что же делать, профессор, если вы задаете вопросы, которые зная основы государства и права, наверное, не задавали бы. Да, и на вопросы ваши были даны исчерпывающие ответы … даже больше, нежели необходимо, чтобы понять различия политических систем Армении и Франции и преимущества либеральных демократий перед диктаторскими режимами.
Меня интересовала Ваша точка зрения, darrel, всего лишь Ваша точка зрения, а эти общие места - лаптем щи давненько не хлебали, так что нужды в этом Вашем экскурсе не было


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Не только в этом, Профессор, я же подробно написал вам о различиях в конституции, которые приводят к смещению баланса власти, наличии/отсутствии гражданского общества ...
А различия в Конституции, в конечном итоге, зависят не от наличия/отсутствия гражданской сознательности? Ладно, darrel, мне Ваша позиция в целом понятна, и от дальнейших Ваших сообщений по этой теме я лично ничего нового не жду. Разумеется, я воздержусь от того, чтобы как-либо комментировать Вашу позицию - на это найдется достаточно желающих в рамках этого топика...
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Old 22.08.2006, 05:57   #532
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Arrogance is not a virtue for a wise man.
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Кстати, Prester, как насчет моего делового предложения? Решайтесь!
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Levon Ter-Petrosyan: Armenia Cannot Become Economically Powerful without the resolution of the Nagorno Karabagh conflict

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Tuesday , 22 August 2006

http://www.turkishweekly.net/news.php?id=37061

Jan SOYKOK (JTW)- “Armenia cannot become economically powerful without the resolution of the Nagorno Karabakh (Garabagh) conflict,” said former Armenian president Levon Ter-Petrosyan, news agencies report. Former President Ter-Petrosyan voiced this statement in a closed meeting with the Cabinet before resigning from his post in 1998. The record of this closed meeting has recently been published in the Armenian pro-opposition media outlets.

Commenting on the reasons why he resigned from the president post in 1998, Ter-Petrosyan said Azerbaijan and Turkey are the most natural and suitable economic partners for Armenia.

“Regrettably, due to the known reasons, it is impossible to use the potential of economic cooperation between Armenia and Turkey. On the other hand, Armenia remained uninvolved in the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan main export oil pipeline due to the conflict. No matter who rules Armenia, he will fail to ensure normal economic development of the country as long as the Nagorno Karabakh conflict remains unresolved. It will be impossible to solve the existing public and economic problems without solving the conflict. The closed borders with Azerbaijan and Turkey, no railway access to the environment leads to increasing transport expenses, reduces Armenian’s export opportunities and looses interest in foreign investors to invest capital in our country” the ex-president underlined.

Similarly Dr. Nilgun Gulcan told the JTW that Armenia is the only country who cannot benefit from the regional integrations: “Turkey, Georgia and Azerbaijan all are in close economic co-operation. Azerbaijain’s economy has growth dramatically. Georgia has enjoyed the integrated economies. The BTC pipeline and other coming projects nourishes all three economies. Turkey is a big economy with 75 million population. It is the 17th biggest economy in the world and Armenia has no access to this great economy while Georgians and Azerbaijanis export and import to the Turkish economy. Both countries have not benefited from Turkish economy’s size till now. But now they have more financial sources and tools. The trade between these three countries will increase radically in coming years. Armenia is an exceptional country in the region and Armenia should not accuse other countries for its poor economic performance. If you have problems with all of your neighbors, it means that something is wrong with your policies”.

Former President Ter-Petrosyan voiced this statement in a closed meeting with the Cabinet before resigning from his post in 1998. The record of this closed meeting has recently been published in the Armenian pro-opposition media outlets.

Ter-Petrosyan also said during the active military operations, the volume of Armenia’s economy decreased twice, and if the Nagorno Karabagh conflict is not resolved, the economic development tempo might fall even stop once and for all.

In the emergency meeting, the ex-president also stressed that Armenians won the battle not the war, and the international community will not tolerate the long-term status quo in Nagorno Karabagh.

JTW, APA, other news agencies
22 August 2006

Jan Soykok, JTW

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Old 22.08.2006, 07:03   #535
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Inchpers Hay mard es kuzei harcnel Hayastani Azgayin Anvtangut'yan Ashxatakicnerin te inchpes e hnaravor vor gaxtni petakan nisti dzaynagrut'yune karog' e' haytnvel mamulum?

Vorpes Hay mard es pahanjum em vorpiszi Haykakan xorherdarane kazmi hatruk handznazogov ev manramasen qenni Haykakan Azgayin Anvtangutyan c'arayut'yunneri gotc'neut'yune. Ete nman tvyalner karog' en sog'oskel mamlu da nshanakum e vor Hayastani Azgayin anvtangutyune lurj vtangvac' e'. Voch kompetent mardik (voronq mek teg' nayev zbag'vum en biznesov) iravunk chunen ashxatel ayd kar'uycym!
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Da kochvum e Azgayin Davach'anut'yun paronayq!

Pastoren Turqeri dzer'qe karog' e e''ngenel en ev ayl dzaynerizner...

Bnakanabar Turq gorc'akalnere (ev voch miayn Turq gorc'akalnere) karog' en shantazhi ent'arkel Hay petakan gorc'ichnerin ogtagorc'elov Hayastani Azgayin Anvtangutyan kog'mic katarac' dzaynagrutyunnere.

Ete Hayastani Naxagahi xoskere p'ag petakan nistic karog' e sog'oskel mamul (isk da petakan gaxtniq e #1), apa da nshanakum e vor mnacac' bolor tvyalnere evs vtangvac' en: skszac' pashtpanutyan naxararutyan tvyalneric ... ev ayln.
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Лет 30-35. Отличный парень и очень грамотный юрист, настолько порядочный, что ГБ не смогло подкапаться под него и состряполо дело из ничего.
А где же армянское диссидентство? Кто нибудь за него заступается там или нет? Вообще то я чего то не допоняла в его истории. Он все еще за решеткой сидит что ли?

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У вас есть примеры? Даже такая страна как Россия не может игнорировать решения Евросуда.
Франция, Турция ... часто были осуждены, но не всегда уважали решения суда. Говорят иногда им необходимо десятилетие для того, чтоб измениться.

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Кто у нас гарант Конституции?
Кто? Он? Пздент?
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Inchpers Hay mard es kuzei harcnel Hayastani Azgayin Anvtangut'yan Ashxatakicnerin te inchpes e hnaravor vor gaxtni petakan nisti dzaynagrut'yune karog' e' haytnvel mamulum?

Vorpes Hay mard es pahanjum em vorpiszi Haykakan xorherdarane kazmi hatruk handznazogov ev manramasen qenni Haykakan Azgayin Anvtangutyan c'arayut'yunneri gotc'neut'yune. Ete nman tvyalner karog' en sog'oskel mamlu da nshanakum e vor Hayastani Azgayin anvtangutyune lurj vtangvac' e'. Voch kompetent mardik (voronq mek teg' nayev zbag'vum en biznesov) iravunk chunen ashxatel ayd kar'uycym!

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Eta pragnoz pabedy nashei gosudarstvennosti nad fsemi etimi ljedimakratiyami ivrapeiskimi - da ya figural'na vyrazilsya, a mne tychut chto ya mol flooder..
Это очевидно. армянское общество за всю свою историю столкнулось с таким большим количеством систем и империи что приобрел имунитет ко всяким "прогрессивным" формам организации общества.
попытки внедрить какие либо "прогрессивные" формы организации общества в армянский народ обречены на полный провал.
армянское общество в своей эволюции достиг такого совершенства что он может существовать в автономном режиме даже без всяких государственных структур. я уж не говорю про законы и конституцию...
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долой лжедемократию
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