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Old 29.03.2002, 02:12   #16
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Menya naprimer nyneshnie otnosheniya ustraivayut. Ya chestno govorya ne vizhu negativnykh storon v kakoy-libo konfliktnoy situacii. Inogda konflikty nado zaglazhivat', inogda - net. Armyano-Azerbayjanskiy konflikt (BTW tak zhe kak i Armyano-Tureckiy) dlya menya prekratit'sya tol'ko posle seryeznykh ustupok protivnoy storony. A poka ustupok net - to i mir mne ne nuzhen. I vse.
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Old 29.03.2002, 02:14   #17
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Пожалуй впервые я согласен с тобой на все 100%.
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Old 29.03.2002, 02:43   #19
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IMHO ty so mnoy soglasilsya v perviy raz chut' poran'she.
Kogda prinyal termin AJAKCOX.

Nu da ladno.
Glavnoe otnositel'niy mir ustanovilsya.
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Pascal mojno ya inogda tebe budu nazivat Brat. To yest v smisle Duxovni Brat.

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Nakonec to viju chto idyot prosvetlenie naroda. Da narod Karabaxskoy problemi uje netu dlya nas ona yest dlya Azerbaidjana.

A to chto tam eti politiki tolkuyut i peregovrivayutsa eto vse nikomu ne nujnaya yerunda. Da nu chyort s nimi. Pust tolkuyut xot' 100 let.
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Ne schitaju, chto konflikt utryasen... No menja tozhe v principe ustraivaet nyneshnee sostoyanie, za odnim iskljucheniem. NKR dlja Armenii poka chto ogromnaja stat'ja v bjudzhete. Poka Armenia i Azerbajdzhan rasxlebyvajut kashu karabaxcam budet neploxo. Prosto v Azerbajdzhane narastaet volna nedovol'stva nyneshnim sostojaniem konflikta.

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Xotelos' by uznat' kakie ustupki s ix storony ty imeesh' v vidu??? U nix i tak zavoevana pochto tret' territorii. Imejut pravo na status "Obizhnik"
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Originally posted by Griffon2-7:
U nix i tak zavoevana pochto tret' territorii. Imejut pravo na status "Obizhnik"
Vot eshe odin yarkuy primer udachnoj raboty turko-azerskoj propagandy.
Otkroj kartu: prikin' xotya by na glaz, dazhe vmeste s Karabakhom eto 16-17% AzSSR. Eto daleko ne tret'.

A zavtra tvoj posting budet citirovat'sya vsemi azerami: "Armyane sami priznali chto otxvatili tret' Azerbaidjana", xotya v sostav Az. Respubliki Arcax nikogda i ne vxodil!!!
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Old 29.03.2002, 16:55   #24
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Takzhe kak i cyfra 1 mln bezhencev, kuda "po-oploshnosti" vklyuchili takzhe samix karabakhcev i na kotoryx poluchayut seychas gumanitarnuyu pomosh'...
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Griffon umet schitat inogda ne pomeshaet.

Armenya dayot kajdi god Karabaxu v dolg 12.000.000 dollarov. Kajdi god v Armyanskix El-Cancax razvorovaetsa 40.000.000 dollarov. Mojet sperva kak to re**** problemu El-Canca potom podumat o drugix statyax budjeta.


tret strani eto sostavlyayet 33% -a ya daje ot Azera takoy cifri nikogda ne slishal.
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Old 29.03.2002, 19:15   #26
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Armyano-Azerskie Otnosheniya -> KILL 'EM, KILL 'EM ALL!!!
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Armyano-Azerskie Otnosheniya -> KILL 'EM, KILL 'EM ALL!!!
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Old 29.03.2002, 20:09   #28
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Nu i pust' sidyat obizhnikami. U proigravshikh net prav. I mne pover' sovsem neinteresno skol'ko territorii oni poteryali. Pust' raduyutsya, chto ne poteryali bol'she.
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Old 29.03.2002, 21:27   #29
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Vozmozhno i menja ne ochen' xorosho s glazomerom ili zhe ja zhertva agitacii. No ja rad, chto moe mnenie mozhet byt' priznano "mneniem armyan". Pol'shen...

V sostav Az. Respubliki Arcax nikogda ne vxodil, s etim ja soglasen, poskol'ku konflikt nachlasya do dnya nezavisimosti AR. (kak kstati i Armenii). No k etomu momentu NKAO naxodilas' na territorii Azerbajdzhanskoj SSR i prinadlezhala ej zhe. Nadejus', chto eto ne vyzyvaet u vas prerekanij?

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Soglasen Rub jan, pobeditelej ne sudyat... Prosto davno ne videl takix bespomoshnyx pobeditelej. K sozhaleniju sami my nichego ne mozhem poka dobit'sja nashej pobedoj. Xrenova (geo)politika... Sejchas opyat' amerikancev rugat' nachnu...

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Davay ne sravnivat' podobnye parametry.
Argumenty:
1. Electoset' - eto sobstvennost' Armenii, i ona sama vinovata, chto ix teryaet.
2. Na 100% uveren, chto iz etix 12.000.000$ krupnaja summa razvorovyvaetsya i eshe v Armenii i uzhe v Arcaxe- eto "vxodit" v armjanskij mentalitet.
3. Daj bog, chtoby prishlo vremja, kogda Arcax smozhet pogasit' etot "dolg" ja iskrenne za eto boleju kak i za priznanie Arcaxskoj nezavisimosti.

Byl ja v NKR. I po rodu svoej dejatel'nosti imel nekotoroe otnoshenie k vysshim krugam. Pochto tak zhe ploxo kak i v Armenii, no vse-taki dolzhen priznat' - poluchshe.
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Groul dumayu ti ne prav eto ne sledstvie Azerskoy propagandi tut rabotali lyudi pokruche, tipa Tumanyana.

Znachit to chto 40.000.000 propadaet v Armenii eto tebya menshe volnuyet chem 12.000.000 opyat je v Armenii. Interesnaya Logika.

Yedinstvenni vivod kotori ya delayu iz tvoyix slov eto to chto Karabaxci eto ne Armyane, mojet ti bi pryamo eto skazal.
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