The Armenian Church

Sevana · Oct 16, 2004, 16:40

I would like feed back from Armenians in Diaspora and in Armenia , I believe Echmiadzin had great advantage after the independce to bring the Apostalic Orthodox Church to every Armenian in Armenia . how ever they failed and droped the ball . now there is so much anger against the Evangelicals , the Mormans the J. Witnesses . they have invaded Armenia and and won .now what ? any comments will be welcome

Sevana · Oct 16, 2004, 16:47

Please reply your comments in English regarding the Armenian church

darrel · Oct 16, 2004, 17:12

Religion is a market. Armenian Apostolic Church (hereinafter AAC) has forgotten that and lost its dominant position on Armenian market. AAC thought if it supports political leadership the leadership will support AAC. That’s why they are so angry about the registration of J. Witnesses. However, political leadership can not ignore international community’s demand for liberalization of the markets, including the market of soils, which is called "freedom of religion". If ACC wants to continue its existence in Armenia it should adopt an effective strategy ... at least to have any. They should forget about luxuries work hard to get people’s soils back to the churches.

Sevana · Oct 16, 2004, 17:30

Hi Darrel jan , thanks for your comments . I agree with most of that you mentioned .

Mono · Oct 17, 2004, 07:34

darrel

As far as I know the head of IMF is J. Witness.. So if the souls are bought and sold as in a market then there is no any chance for the Armenian Church to win the struggle

Joshua12 · Oct 17, 2004, 08:09

Armenian Apostolic Church will be more proactive and it will solve all its problems.
It exists 1700 years in the most difficult environment. It has sufficient corporate memory (knowledge) to protect its shrines and the purity of the nation by all possible and impossible means.
So do not worry.
21 century is the century of Armenian people.
We will f** them all.

Bests,
J12

darrel · Oct 17, 2004, 08:23

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Originally Posted by Joshua12

Armenian Apostolic Church will be more proactive and it will solve all its problems.

I would say "if AAC would became proactive". I do not really see they want to be proactive.

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Originally Posted by Mono

As far as I know the head of IMF is J. Witness.. So if the souls are bought and sold as in a market then there is no any chance for the Armenian Church to win the struggle

Mono, as far as I know IMF and AAC do not compete with each other - currencies and soils are different markets, aren’t they?

Joshua12 · Oct 17, 2004, 08:34

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Originally Posted by darrel

I would say "if AAC would became proactive". I do not realy see they want to be proactive.

Soon you will see how proactive AAC can be; when there is an enemy the decadence vanishes. I know the real potential of that church very well. When they will take the swords out of the books nothing will be able to resist the power of the heritage. Armenian Christian - Nationalism.

Галантерейщики и Кардинал это сила!

Can you imagine what will happen if the Armenian Apostolic Church will enter into politics.

Его высоко преосвященство ...

darrel · Oct 17, 2004, 10:07

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Originally Posted by Joshua12

Armenian Christian - Nationalism.

You think AAC can play a role of nationalistic leadership?

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Галантерейщики и Кардинал это сила!

whom you specifically mean saying "galantereishiki"

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Can you imagine what will happen if the Armenian Apostolic Church will enter into politics.

I do not think ACC will enter the politics. With our current Katalikos

But, who knows.

Oct 16, 2004, 16:40	#1
Sevana Студент Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 387 Rep Power: 5 Reputation: 40	The Armenian Church I would like feed back from Armenians in Diaspora and in Armenia , I believe Echmiadzin had great advantage after the independce to bring the Apostalic Orthodox Church to every Armenian in Armenia . how ever they failed and droped the ball . now there is so much anger against the Evangelicals , the Mormans the J. Witnesses . they have invaded Armenia and and won .now what ? any comments will be welcome

Oct 16, 2004, 17:12	#3
darrel VIP Роджер Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Yereven Posts: 4,462 Rep Power: 7 Reputation: 20	Religion is a market. Armenian Apostolic Church (hereinafter AAC) has forgotten that and lost its dominant position on Armenian market. AAC thought if it supports political leadership the leadership will support AAC. That’s why they are so angry about the registration of J. Witnesses. However, political leadership can not ignore international community’s demand for liberalization of the markets, including the market of soils, which is called "freedom of religion". If ACC wants to continue its existence in Armenia it should adopt an effective strategy ... at least to have any. They should forget about luxuries work hard to get people’s soils back to the churches. __________________ Ignorantia non est argumentum /Отрицание не есть доказательство/

Oct 17, 2004, 07:34	#5
Mono Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Yerevan Posts: 5,395 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 9 Reputation: 102	darrel As far as I know the head of IMF is J. Witness.. So if the souls are bought and sold as in a market then there is no any chance for the Armenian Church to win the struggle __________________ --------------- *Արատտայի ու Խալդեյի հովանավոր* .

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Oct 16, 2004, 16:47	#2
Sevana Студент Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 387 Rep Power: 5 Reputation: 40	Please reply your comments in English regarding the Armenian church

Oct 16, 2004, 17:30	#4
Sevana Студент Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 387 Rep Power: 5 Reputation: 40	Hi Darrel jan , thanks for your comments . I agree with most of that you mentioned .

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Joshua12 Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: GroundZero Posts: 999 Rep Power: 0 Reputation: 10	Armenian Apostolic Church will be more proactive and it will solve all its problems. It exists 1700 years in the most difficult environment. It has sufficient corporate memory (knowledge) to protect its shrines and the purity of the nation by all possible and impossible means. So do not worry. 21 century is the century of Armenian people. We will f** them all. Bests, J12