Reason to join

[acid]

Hello,

Everyone is familar to "reason to join" field in your profiles. This question is being asked when people join to this forum. This information is only for myself and I shouldn't show it anywhere, but... this one looks interesting to me and I will publish it.

 
There is a new user, OTTOMAN at AKB Forums 
To view their profile, go here:
 
http://forum.armkb.com/member.php?userid=4342
 
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Birthday : 06-11-0000
 
Reason to Join AKB : u r poisoning people by telling lies and never speak about the armenian betrayal.Armenian the people who our ancestors loved like brothers betrayed us in ww I.and then what they couldn t succeed and now try to do this in a most dishonorable way.
 
Location : TURKIYE (*

[Mono]

LOOOOL acid djan lavn er ...

Marde enkan e shtapel mitke artahaytel vor chi hamberel

[Sevana]

Thank you Acid for publishing this guys intentions , I am fuming by his remarks

[Oops]

он уже проявил себя...
поскольку не хочу писать это в открытом им том топике и на английском, у меня чисто человеческая просьба ко всем, кто отреагирует на его заявления - екек базар чсаркенк эли, чат.мэйл.ру-и макардаки

[Hrach_Techie]

2OTTOMAN

Reason to Join AKB : u r poisoning people by telling lies and never speak about the armenian betrayal.Armenian the people who our ancestors loved like brothers betrayed us in ww I.and then what they couldn t succeed and now try to do this in a most dishonorable way.

Location : TURKIYE (*

I don't grok which betrayal you are referring to here? Could you provide additional details please. My friend, how anyone like you mentally spammed with bogus propaganda for tens of decades of years can deny this is really beyond me. Have those who've been deceiving you evr shown photos of Turks with the trophy heads of Armenians and an Armenian woman starved to death. Have they evr shown you also a wealth of data on the subject... I'm more than sure they didn't and you are one of those done guys that want to do anything to assuage their perverted conscience and therefore deny it. This isn't the holocaust we are talking about here. Do give this list of of news accounts of the time a thorough read and if nothing else, take lesson from this ...

Map of Genocide:

http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Image...o/hewsen224.gif

New York Times News Articles From the Period:

http://www.cilicia.com/armo10c.html

ABC News Net Work Film Presentation (scroll down the web-page for the ABC link):

http://www.genocide1915.info/#

Zionist involvement within the Armenian Genocide:

http://www.rense.com/general63/armen.htm
http://www.marxists.de/middleast/schoenman/ch02.htm

The Turkish rape of Armenia's greatest medieval city:

http://www.virtualani.freeserve.co.uk/

Various Armenian Genocide Photo Pictures:

http://www.cilicia.com/armo10f.html
http://www.genocide1915.info/pictures.asp

Additional Educational Resources:

http://www.armenian-genocide.org/education.html

You still want to call it betrayal?

The Secret Jews,
Joachim Prinz, 1973, pp. 111-122

[In December 1686, more than three hundred families converted to Islam in Salonika. Like Shabtai and other Marranos, they continued to attend Jewish services secretly and observed certain Jewish customs in their homes.]

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[This was the origin of the most important group, numerically and historically, of Islamic Marranos. The faithful Mohammedans call these hidden Jews 'doenmehs', the renegades. Over the years the 'doenmeh' movement became firmly established in Asia Minor. In the nineteenth century the sect was estimated to have twenty thousand members. Salonikare-mained its main seat until that city became Greek in 1913. Although the Jewish community remained there under Greek rule, the 'doenmehs' moved to Constantinople.]

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[I shall meticulously adhere to the customs of the Turks so as not to arose their suspicion. I shall not only observe the Fast of Ramadan but all the other Muslim customs which are observed in public.]

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[From time to time the Turkish governors of Salonika, who received complaints about the sect from the Mohammedan clergy, tried to investigate the strange existence of the 'doenmehs'. Their clannishness, their refusal to mingle with Mohammedan families, and their marital restrictions had become a well-known fact, difficult to hide from the majority of the people among whom they had lived for many generations. Socially, they seemed impenetrable, although in their Moslem religious practices they were beyond reproach. In fact, they often seemed even more devout followers of the Prophet Mohammed and more sincere worshipers of Allah than the rest of the community. They fasted during Ramadan, and their leaders and adherents were found in large, even conspicuous numbers among the pilgrims to Mecca.]

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[The revolt of the Young Turks in 1908 against the authoritarian regime of Sultan Abdul Hamid began among the intellectuals of Salonika. It was from there that the demand for a constitutional regime originated. Among the leaders of the revolution which resulted in a more modern government in Turkey were Djavid Bey and Mustafa Kemal. Both were ardent 'doenmehs'. Djavid Bey became minister of finance; Mustafa Kemal became the leader of the new regime and he adopted the name of Ataturk. His opponents tried to use his 'doenmeh' background to unseat him, but without success. Too many of the Young Turks in the newly formed revolutionary Cabinet prayed to Allah, but had as their real prophet Shabtai Zvi, the Messiah of Smyrna.]

How do you like these stories? I am sure you never of them - did you?
Here's more:

http://www.britannica.com/bcom/eb/a...1+30930,00.html

Young Turks and the Armenian Genocide

[The Young Turks were the perpetrators of the Armenian Genocide.]

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[To consolidate Turkish rule in the remaining territories of the Ottoman Empire and to expand the state into the so-called Turanian lands in the east, most held by Iran and Russia, the CUP devised in secret a program for the extermination of the Armenian population. From the viewpoint of Ittihadist ideology and its new and ambitious foreign policy, the Armenians represented a completely vulnerable population straddling an area of major strategic value for its Pan-Turanian goals. Ottoman misrule had made the Armenians, a prosperous minority despite its political disadvantages, sympathetic to Russia. To the Ittihadists, the global crisis of 1914 represented a rare opportunity to change the fortunes of the Ottoman state and to use the cover of war to embark upon a policy of both internal and external social engineering the likes of which had not been attempted or imagined. Once again they gambled on the element of surprise, subterfuge, and radical daring, this time against a civilian minority population.]

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[The main thrust of the Armenian Genocide, however, was implemented within the first year of the war, years ahead of any imminent collapse. While the mass deportations of the civilian Armenian population was carried out in the spring and summer of 1915 and were completed by the fall, the systematic slaughter of the Armenians had started earlier with the murder of the able-bodied males already drafted into the Ottoman armed forces. By expropriating the movable and immovable wealth of the Armenians, the CUP also looked upon its policy of genocide as a means for enriching its coffers and rewarding its cohorts. The elimination of a commercially viable minority fulfilled part of the nationalist program to concentrate financial power in the hands of the state and promote greater Turkish control over the domestic economy.]

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[In his capacity as the Deputy Commander-in-Chief (the honorary command being reserved for the sovereign), Enver exercised ultimate control over the Ottoman armies which carried out major atrocities, first in 1915 and then with renewed vigor when Turkish forces broke the Russian line in 1918 and invaded the Caucasus. The forces under the command of his brother, Nuri, and uncle, Halil, spread devastation through Russian Armenia and carried out massacres of Armenians all the way to Baku.]

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[Talaat as Minister of the Interior in Istanbul ran the government for a figurehead grand vizier. He was the mastermind of the Armenian Genocide and coordinated the various agencies of the Ottoman government required for the deportation, expropriation, and extermination of the Armenians.]

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[Jemal ... As commander of Syria, the concentration camps and extermination sites fell within his jurisdiction.]

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[Beyond the government ministries, the CUP also operated secret groups for the purpose of infiltrating enemy territory and for promoting Pan-Turkism in neighboring countries. The most infamous of its operations was the Teshkilâti Mahsusa, Special Organization, composed of outlaws especially recruited to carry out the CUP secret agenda. The high purpose of their mission was evidenced by their disposition at the command of two major CUP ideologues, Dr. Nazim and Dr. Behaeddin Shakir, both of them medical professionals, the prime organizers of the on-site implementation of the Armenian Genocide. Lastly, the CUP entrusted local command of the genocidal process to the provincial valis, or governors-general, who were made responsible for the execution of Talaat's and Enver's orders.]

NOTE: In his book "Four Years Under the Crescent", Raphael De Nogalis refferes to Talaat as "The renegade jew from Salonika".

And please do never try to come over here and try spreading BULL**** that is already beyond absurd for most of the people around the globe!!!!

[Hans Andersen]

ACID, just BAN please

[Mono]

Hans

Ottomane der voch mi kanon chi xaxtel aynpes vor ban anel petk chi.
Toghek togh marde xosa tesnenk inch e uzatze. Miguce hnaravor mi ban haskacel.

[Hans Andersen]

Mono, karda im messagy ed vochxari bazaz threadum.

[Mono]

Hans
Yes kardaci ko gratze. Yes nuynpes irenc het bavakanin zrucel em u gitem vor nrank bolorn el lav el giten inch e teghi unecel ughaki irenk tkatz unen u pndum en irence.

Bayc menk partavor enk amen mardu mi shans tal.
Togh xosa. Yete sksi viravorankner hascnel nor ban kanenk. Isk hima yete ban anenk kgna irenc forumnerum khaytarari vor hayere irenic vaxecan , inke hayerin kzcrec u voobshem hayere chkaroghacan apacucel irenc asatze.

[Hans Andersen]

Originally Posted by Mono

Isk hima yete ban anenk kgna irenc forumnerum khaytarari vor hayere irenic vaxecan , inke hayerin kzcrec u voobshem hayere chkaroghacan apacucel irenc asatze.

Mono jan, du karzum es hnaravor a vor ban chanes ajl urish ban anes u inqy ed banery chasi??? lav anzaz lini, es chem patrastvum turqi hamar hajeri het vichel

[Hrach_Techie]

кстати пусть начнёт ... кидание калом у них лучший аргумент так как другие у них отсутствуют ...

[Sevana]

Just let Hans say it the way he wants to , I am with you Hans . Mono jan what chance do you want to give to Turkish guys such as Ottoman ?