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Old 02.06.2002, 18:48   #1
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yes bnakvum em Americayum. sovorum em hamalsaranum, hamakarqchayin tsragravorman gtsov.

voroshel em, avarteluts heto teghapokhvel Hayastan.

ktsankanayi miqich teghekutyun stanal aydteghi ashkhatanqayin iravijaki masin.

ardyoq tsragravoroghneri kariq ka? inch makardaki vra e gtnvum tsragravorum@ Hayastanum? inchpisi ashkhatategher kan? inchisi tsragravorumn e aveli harki kam taratsvats Hayastanum? yev ayln.
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Old 03.06.2002, 23:51   #2
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voroshel em, avarteluts heto teghapokhvel Hayastan.

Kstanas skazbnakan 200, heto 210.....
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voroshel em, avarteluts heto teghapokhvel Hayastan.

Kstanas skazbnakan 200, heto 210.....
VX, inches mardun vaxacnum?
Harut jan, hayastanum amena taracvac cragravorman lezun da C++, vor gas stex u normal giteliqner unenas ev ashxatanqajin pordz, skzbnakan kstanas 300$-500$ nayac vortex [email protected] u minchev 1500$ karas aches, bajc 1500$ shat erbeq.
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yes bnakvum em Americayum. sovorum em hamalsaranum, hamakarqchayin tsragravorman gtsov.

voroshel em, avarteluts heto teghapokhvel Hayastan.
?!? u cragravorum sovorelu hamar gnum eir amerika? im karciqov, stex lav cragravorox darnalu shansery aveli barcr en.
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?!? u cragravorum sovorelu hamar gnum eir amerika?
isk yes yerb aydpisi ban asatsi?

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im karciqov, stex lav cragravorox darnalu shansery aveli barcr en.
hetaqrqir e imanal te inchu.
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VX, Gates, da shabatakani masin e xosq@, che?

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VX, Gates, da shabatakani masin e xosq@, che?
Erani cher. Miangamic erevuma, vor Harut@ mecacela USA-um.
Che Harut jan, eti amsakan ashxatavardza. Dra hamar el stexic cragravoroxner@ gnum en USA
Isk vor 1500$ hasnes piti 5-6 tarva pordz unenas.
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VX, Gates, da shabatakani masin e xosq@, che?
Erani cher. Miangamic erevuma, vor Harut@ mecacela USA-um.
Che Harut jan, eti amsakan ashxatavardza. Dra hamar el stexic cragravoroxner@ gnum en USA
Isk vor 1500$ hasnes piti 5-6 tarva pordz unenas.
Gates (Bill Gates, te darpasner?) jan, nkatir xndrum em ayn txur kapuyt yerevuyt@ gratsis verjum.
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Gates (Bill Gates, te darpasner?) jan, nkatir xndrum em ayn txur kapuyt yerevuyt@ gratsis verjum.
Nkatel em.
Es voch Bill em, voch el darpasner! Es prosto Gatesem (et nick@ es chem horinel, eti im irakyan kyanqi makanuna)
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im karciqov, stex lav cragravorox darnalu shansery aveli barcr en.
hetaqrqir e imanal te inchu.
здесь больше шансов получить качественное техническое образование. те же западные книги стоят дешевле (т. к. их издание в россии стоит дешевле). образование бесплатное, что дает всем шансы. и наконец, есть стимул, чтобы стать хорошим программистом - довольно престижная и оплачиваемая профессия.
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Gates (Bill Gates, te darpasner?) jan, nkatir xndrum em ayn txur kapuyt yerevuyt@ gratsis verjum.
Nkatel em.
Es voch Bill em, voch el darpasner! Es prosto Gatesem (et nick@ es chem horinel, eti im irakyan kyanqi makanuna)
prosto Gates jan, isk inchu aveli shat chen v&arum? shat programistner kan? te ughaki grvats programner@ shat ogut chen berum?
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im karciqov, stex lav cragravorox darnalu shansery aveli barcr en.
hetaqrqir e imanal te inchu.
здесь больше шансов получить качественное техническое образование. те же западные книги стоят дешевле (т. к. их издание в россии стоит дешевле). образование бесплатное, что дает всем шансы. и наконец, есть стимул, чтобы стать хорошим программистом - довольно престижная и оплачиваемая профессия.
grqer@ ejhan en, bayts ashxatavardzn el qich a che?
estegh $50ov lav CPP-i girq karnem. isk $50ov haziv 2 shabatva benzin ltsnem menak dasi gnal galu hamar. yanim vor 2 shabat votov gnam dasi, karam girq arnem.

estegh usutsman hamar petutyun@ ahagin pogh a tramadrum. financates anapahov mardik (im nman) karogh en hangist usutsum stanal.
im hamalsaran@ arjhi motavorapes $17000 tarin. u lriv ( tu-tu-tu ) petutyunn a pakum.

yete $5-600 shat gravich a aydtegh, uremn $5-6000 shat aveli gravich a aystegh.

yes chem uzum Hayastani programistnerin "qtsel", bayts vor asum em edtegh aveli mets a lav programist darnalu shanser@, miqich havats chi galis.
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grqer@ ejhan en, bayts ashxatavardzn el qich a che?
как раз для здешних цен это нормально. но по каким-то параметрам зарплаты ниже. например, относительно цен на автомобили

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estegh $50ov lav CPP-i girq karnem. isk $50ov haziv 2 shabatva benzin ltsnem menak dasi gnal galu hamar. yanim vor 2 shabat votov gnam dasi, karam girq arnem.
isk stex - 10 angam ezhans (girqy)

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yete $5-600 shat gravich a aydtegh, uremn $5-6000 shat aveli gravich a aystegh.
нет, для меня лучше 600 здесь, чем 6000 в калифорнии в калифорнии я бы предпочел побольше получать

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yes chem uzum Hayastani programistnerin "qtsel", bayts vor asum em edtegh aveli mets a lav programist darnalu shanser@, miqich havats chi galis.
а каковы доводы в пользу того, что в америке больше шансов? кстати, еще один довод в пользу армении - здесь больше шансов попасть в серьезную фирму и участвовать в серьезном проекте, набирая рабочий опыт. происходит это именно из-за нехватки специалистов высокого класса. некоторые фирмы согласны даже брать неопытных студентов и развивать их потенциал у себя. такое происходит в америке или обязательно требуют '3+ years hands-on experience'?
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Gates jan, isk inchu aveli shat chen v&arum? shat programistner kan? te ughaki grvats programner@ shat ogut chen berum?
Mer grac softer@ lav el ogut en berum, bajc voch mez Uxaki stex qich firmaner kan. Bajc Hayastani hamar et ashxatavardz@ lava, normal aprelu hamar lriv bavakana.
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