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Old 07.12.2003, 13:24   #16
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Old 07.12.2003, 17:20   #17
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I wonder how desperate one must be to write for a newspaper with such a name...
I liked this line especially: "Some authors may be eligible for honorariums"
Lev, I don't think this will come as a suprise, but even your US diploma will not guarantee you a great job with a famous company that pays well right after graduation.
All publications require experience, and I guess you know it just as well as I do. And as far as experience is concerned, the name of the publication doesn't matter. What your employees will be looking at is your writing. You can write for Azg (Valar, save me! ), but as long as your work is good you shouldn't be concerned with things like that at all! And you're talking about journalistic ideals (the topic in Lit.Nook)? Rething them again...

And about the language.. well, I don't want to offend anyone, but "Bryusov English" hasn't really evolved during the last decade. Plus linguistic (literary) and journalism English are very different. Take a look at a western professional publication, and compare some articles that English-language Armenian publications have. It's funny and sad at the same time. Plus the styles are very different.

I didn't mean to offend anyone, and am sorry if I did.
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Old 07.12.2003, 17:23   #18
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Old 07.12.2003, 20:47   #19
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Ok, guys, I'd like to express my own humble opinion
First of all, I should say that as far as I can judge (as a student of the aforementioned institution), Bryusov English (as well as Bryusov French, German, Italian and Spanish) HAS evolved during the last decade and it is a universally accepted fact. But this is not the point. The point is why should Yerevan State LINGUISTIC University after V. Bryusov teach journalism? Well, actually this year we've had a new department, journalism department, along with others - Political Science, Psychology, Area Studies etc., which is supposed to be concerned with journalism English, but it is entirely new! Besides, as Elvis has already mentioned, everyone develops his/her skills to the extent he or she wants! No one can force you to read books and newspapers or watch CNN if you don't want to. This is all purely subjective and depends on the personal perception only. Thus let's not be too general about Bryusov, which BTW has given a number of excellent specialists!
And one more thing regarding journalism language teaching. Yes, as a matter of fact journalism is not our major, at least officially, but I assure you that in our university it is not the last thing to concentrate on. We have two hours of press English per week, which in fact are very productive and fruitful in learning mass media English - absolutely different from the literary one, agree We read articles, we learn the special vocabulary, we comment on the latest events ourselves - ten years ago things weren't like that! The progress is evident, even if slow. However, they say "slowly but surely"
What I mean to say is that i think we shouldn't be so critical about everything, be it a newspaper's name or "Bryusov English"(which is actually rather rumor than truth, because there is no single definition for the whole entity, having thousands of students. Let us try to be more tolerant, ok?
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Old 07.12.2003, 20:58   #20
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Our furious Bryusov ladies/gentlemen are going to eat me alive for joking so straightforwardly!

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Thus let's not be too general about Bryusov, which BTW has given a number of excellent specialists!
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Our furious Bryusov ladies/gentlemen are going to eat me alive for joking so straightforwardly!
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Lev, I don't think this will come as a suprise, but even your US diploma will not guarantee you a great job with a famous company that pays well right after graduation.
Did I say anything about my US diploma?

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And as far as experience is concerned, the name of the ublication doesn't matter. What your employees will be looking at is your writing. You can write for Azg (Valar, save me! ), but as long as your work is good you shouldn't be concerned with things like that at all!
I mentioned the name of the publication because it's so much ridiculous to name a newspaper after another famous one, I'm talking about New York Times, especially when our city's name is definitely not New Yerevan And what does it matter what your employers will be looking at, when you write for a newspaper with such a name? And the connection between writer's work and the name of the newspaper is the following: it'll be so much not cool when people say about that writer - poor guy, his articles are so good, but they are being published in a newspaper with such a stupid name

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And you're talking about journalistic ideals (the topic in Lit.Nook)? Rething them again...
And why would I "rething" my "journalistic ideals"?
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First of all, I should say that as far as I can judge (as a student of the aforementioned institution), Bryusov English (as well as Bryusov French, German, Italian and Spanish) HAS evolved during the last decade and it is a universally accepted fact.

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But this is not the point. The point is why should Yerevan State LINGUISTIC University after V. Bryusov teach journalism?
Why wouldn't it? You guys have changed your name recently, you can do it again
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Thus let's not be too general about Bryusov, which BTW has given a number of excellent specialists!
Не будем называть имен, но всем понятно, что это был слоненок

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I mentioned the name of the publication because it's so much ridiculous to name a newspaper after another famous one, I'm talking about New York Times, especially when our city's name is definitely not New Yerevan And what does it matter what your employers will be looking at, when you write for a newspaper with such a name? And the connection between writer's work and the name of the newspaper is the following: it'll be so much not cool when people say about that writer - poor guy, his articles are so good, but they are being published in a newspaper with such a stupid name
Good mooorning! (kak skazal odin nash parlamentariy posle obsuzhdeniy karabaxskoy problemy).

Sorry, ne videla otklikov.
Paru spravochek. Krome New York Times est' esche The Moscow Times, The Georgian Times i vsyakie drugie Times. Esli eto vam kazhetsya "stupid"... De hima...
"The Yerevan Times" - bylo uzhe zaregistrirovannoe nazvanie v ministerstve Yusticii (mozhet vam kazhetsya smeshnym to chto u nas est' i ministerstvo yusticii?), a shpingel' treboval svoe i uchrediteli zaregistrirovali gazetu kak "New Yerevan Times" .
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neMarina, a kto glavred gazety?
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Why wouldn't it? You guys have changed your name recently, you can do it again
I thought we were talking about the current status of the university and the way the things are TODAY! We might make fruther changes, but I don't think it really matters as far as the present state is concerned.

Не будем называть имен, но всем понятно, что это был слоненок [/QUOTE]

Какой еще слоненок? Ты решил, что я намекаю на себя? Отнюдь!

Кстати, насчет The New York Times, wasn't it in its turn named after a famous English nespaper The Times? And in this case why don't you find this ridiculous, too?
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Кстати, насчет The New York Times, wasn't it in its turn named after a famous English nespaper The Times? And in this case why don't you find this ridiculous, too?
You didn't get me right. I'm fine with that. I just don't like the name New Yerevan Times, BECAUSE OUR FREAKIN' CITY'S NAME IS NOT FREAKIN' NEW YEREVAN!!!

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Paru spravochek. Krome New York Times est' esche The Moscow Times, The Georgian Times i vsyakie drugie Times.
Ух ты, сколько новых вещей узнал
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"The Yerevan Times" - bylo uzhe zaregistrirovannoe nazvanie v ministerstve Yusticii
Интересно, кстати, кто это себе отхватил хорошее название? Да еще и не пользуются
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(mozhet vam kazhetsya smeshnym to chto u nas est' i ministerstvo yusticii?)
может, может... чего только в наши дни не случается
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a shpingel' treboval svoe i uchrediteli zaregistrirovali gazetu kak "New Yerevan Times" .
Как шпигель может чего-то требовать? Бедные учредители, не выдержали напора шпигеля
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