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Old 23.09.2002, 00:35   #1
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Question Порнография в сети

Так уж получилось, что порнография в интернете оказалась предметом обсуждений в нескольких топиках. Причем в отличии от банальных уголовно наказуемых деяний в случае с порнографией в Интернете остается куча невыясненных вопросов как правового, так и морального плана. Дело и не в том, следует ли считать создание порно сайтов преступлением, если в сети этого добра и так завались, да и можно публикацию сайта считать распространением. Возникает другой вопрос: а следует ли вообще создание порно сайтов считать преступлением? А если нет, то как тогда оградить от нее малолетних, да и тех, кому она просто не нравится.

Вопрос и для юристов и для не юристов.
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Old 23.09.2002, 01:15   #2
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Es gtnum em, vor nman sayter lav ban chen sovorecni mer erexanerin, voronq dprocum informatikayi dasin internetic ogtvelov kmtnen ayd ejer@ ev kpchacnen irenc mankakan maqur hogin u patkeracumner@`aranc ayn el arden amen inch aratavorvats e(te herustatesutyan haxordumner@, te mnacac hayatayin kextotutyunner@... )
Inch mnuma aydpisi sayt texadrel@ pornkagrakan nyuteri taracum hamarenq te voch` da indz hamar vicheli el chi, vorovhetev ete mi mard porno sayt e sarqum u texadrum inetum vorpeszi mardiq mtnen nayen (chi nshanakum, vor inq@ taracum e ayd pornografian) ev henc aydtex el hasunanum e ayd harci hasarakakan vtangavorutyun@...
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Old 23.09.2002, 01:29   #3
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Slozhniy vopros. S odnoy storoni, pornografiya i vse takoe - dovol`no vrednaya vesh i xorosho by ee vaashe ne bilo. S drugoy storoni, esli vzrosliy, soznatel`niy chelovek xochet poluchit` chto-to nikomu ne meshaya - zachem emu zapreshat` ?
S etoy tochki zreniya pornografiyu (tak zhe kak i bordeli) ne stoit presledovat` pravovim obrazom, tut za****oy dolzhny bit` moral`nie normi (esli, konechno, oni est` ).
A vot kak za****it` detey ot pornografii - ser`ezniy vopros. Pri nineshnem urovne dostupnosti interneta, polnostyu ogradit` rebenka/podrostka ot pornografii nevozmozhno. Tem ne menee, nado imet` zakon zapreshayushiy vidachu detyam pornograficheskoy informacii v lyubom vide. Tol`ko ya ploxo predstavlyayu kak etot zakon budet soblyudat`sya...
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Es gtnum em, vor nman sayter lav ban chen sovorecni mer erexanerin, voronq dprocum informatikayi dasin internetic ogtvelov kmtnen ayd ejer@ ev kpchacnen irenc mankakan maqur hogin u patkeracumner@`aranc ayn el arden amen inch aratavorvats e(te herustatesutyan haxordumner@, te mnacac hayatayin kextotutyunner@... )


Anshusht, pornon inetum vtang e erexaneri hamar.
Ev aid xndir@ ka bolor erkrnerum. Sakain vorosh erkrnerum pornon argelvac che, ev harc e cagum inchpes pakel aid saiter@ erexaneri hamar. Mez mot da evs xndir e, qani vor internet@ sahmanner chuni ev nuin saiter@ hasaneli en ev mer erexaneri hamar.
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Tem ne menee, nado imet` zakon zapreshayushiy vidachu detyam pornograficheskoy informacii v lyubom vide. Tol`ko ya ploxo predstavlyayu kak etot zakon budet soblyudat`sya...
Я тоже плохо себе представляю как такой закон будет действовать. В России, например, издание и продажа порнографической продукции лицензируется. Т.е. продавец должен обеспечить гарантии того, что его продукция не попадет в руке детям. Там много всяких требований. А вот как быть с Интернетом?
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Es gtnum em, vor nman sayter lav ban chen sovorecni mer erexanerin, voronq dprocum informatikayi dasin internetic ogtvelov kmtnen ayd ejer@ ev kpchacnen irenc mankakan maqur hogin u patkeracumner@`aranc ayn el arden amen inch aratavorvats e(te herustatesutyan haxordumner@, te mnacac hayatayin kextotutyunner@... )


Anshusht, pornon inetum vtang e erexaneri hamar.
Ev aid xndir@ ka bolor erkrnerum. Sakain vorosh erkrnerum pornon argelvac che, ev harc e cagum inchpes pakel aid saiter@ erexaneri hamar. Mez mot da evs xndir e, qani vor internet@ sahmanner chuni ev nuin saiter@ hasaneli en ev mer erexaneri hamar.


Kareli e ayd uxxutyamb mtatsel`daje dimel masnagetneri. Qani vor menq iravabannerov karox enq miayn iravakan u ayl ognutyun cuyc tanq, bayc voch bardzr texnologianeri gtsov
Mnum e mi harc ayd masnagetnerin` inch pes anel, vor ayd amenic heru mnan hasarakutyan amenaanpashtpan xav@`EREXANER@
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Mnum e mi harc ayd masnagetnerin` inch pes anel, vor ayd amenic heru mnan hasarakutyan amenaanpashtpan xav@`EREXANER@
OK, ete entadrenq, vor erexaner@ pashtpanvac en ev mutq@ porno sait miain chapahasneri hamar e (orinak miain credit carterov, kam mi ail ID-nerov) pornon irenic nerkayacnum e hasarakutian hamar vrangavor ararq?
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Mnum e mi harc ayd masnagetnerin` inch pes anel, vor ayd amenic heru mnan hasarakutyan amenaanpashtpan xav@`EREXANER@
OK, ete entadrenq, vor erexaner@ pashtpanvac en ev mutq@ porno sait miain chapahasneri hamar e (orinak miain credit carterov, kam mi ail ID-nerov) pornon irenic nerkayacnum e hakahasarakakan ararq?
Harct chhaskaca ete hnaravor e konkretacru
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Harct chhaskaca ete hnaravor e konkretacru
ete erexanerin porno siter@ kam nuinisk tpagir nyter@ hasaneli chen, apa inchu e pornografian hamarvum hancagorcutiun? parza, vor qr. orendrutiamb sahmanvac e, baic vorn e hasarakakan vtang@, pr@ partadir paiman e ajs kam ain gocohutiun@ hancagorcutiun chanachelu hamar?
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ete erexanerin porno siter@ kam nuinisk tpagir nyter@ hasaneli chen, apa inchu e pornografian hamarvum hancagorcutiun? parza, vor qr. orendrutiamb sahmanvac e, baic vorn e hasarakakan vtang@, pr@ partadir paiman e ajs kam ain gocohutiun@ hancagorcutiun chanachelu hamar?
Sksenq nranic, vor ayd argelq@ drvats e sovetakan jamanakneric ev minchev hima chi poxvel u ete chem sxalvum ays nor naxagtsum el e pahpanvum. Isk te orensdir@ inch e i nkati unecel hasarakakan vtang aselov es chem karox asel aveli lav klini ayd harc@ uxxel mer orensdirnerin, bayc es karox em asel im kartsiq@, vor es mtatsum em vor ete erexanern el lav pashtpanvats linen aynuamenayniv da petq chi mer hasarakutyan@ da azdum e mardkanc entagitakcutyan vra ev aratavorum mardkanc. Henc aystex el kareli e nkatel dra hasarakakan vtang@. Hamenayn deps es aydpes em mtatsum. Isk du inch kartsiqi es?
Bayc qo kartsiqn e indz hetaqrqrum voch te qr. dasagrqum grats@ (asum em vor qo mtatsats@ sharadres)
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Bayc qo kartsiqn e indz hetaqrqrum voch te qr. dasagrqum grats@ (asum em vor qo mtatsats@ sharadres)
Es karcum em vor aid hodvac@ ir imast@ korcrel e. Cankacac Internet cafeum kareli e ditel porno siter. Da globalizaciai hetevanqnern en. Gnalov orensdrutiun@ petk e mijazgainacvi aisinqn menq SPIPVAC klinenq @ndunel mijazgain hanrutian kohmic @ndunvac normer@. Djvar e asel, te da lav e te vat. Orinak es dem em Amerikyan hehinakain iravunqi skzbunqneri ashxarov mek taracvel@, dranq hakasum em zargacoh erkrneri stehcagorcneri shaherin.

Karcum em, vor orensdir@ petq e mtaci te inchpes kareli e kargavorel dasht@. Orinak partadri ain Internet srcharannerum tehadrel filterner, kam partadrel providernerin cnohneri pahanjov irenc tramadrel aid filter cragrer@.
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Originally posted by darrel:
Es karcum em vor aid hodvac@ ir imast@ korcrel e.
Cankacac Internet cafeum kareli e ditel porno siter. Da globalizaciai hetevanqnern en. Gnalov orensdrutiun@ petk e mijazgainacvi aisinqn menq SPIPVAC klinenq @ndunel mijazgain hanrutian kohmic @ndunvac normer@.
Ayo ev hima menq @ndunel enq tekuz stipvats, bayc aysuhetev mer ekexecin grancvelu e vorpes sovorakan kronakan kazmakerputyun.
Djvar e asel, te da lav e te vat. Orinak es dem em Amerikyan hehinakain iravunqi skzbunqneri ashxarov mek taracvel@, dranq hakasum em zargacoh erkrneri stehcagorcneri shaherin. Es gtnum em vor da vat e, ay orinak arvamolutyun@ vorpes qreoren hetapndeli araq veranum e ev menq asum enq ha de inch ka vor meka irakanum ayd orenq@ cher ashxatum, bayc senc mi ban arden es gitem vor arvamolner@ spasum en vor henc nor qr. or@. durs ga irenq arvamolneri miutyun grancen vorpes HK hima sa vat chi???

Karcum em, vor orensdir@ petq e mtaci te inchpes kareli e kargavorel dasht@. Orinak partadri ain Internet srcharannerum tehadrel filterner, kam partadrel providernerin cnohneri pahanjov irenc tramadrel aid filter cragrer@.
Voch te mtatsi ayl orenqov amragri ev hetevoxakanoren i katar atsi ayd druytner@
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Ppl, Es mi hat arajark unem, porno servernery miatsnel jamy 24:00-in. Et jamanak informatikai jamin knereq artahaitutians hamar "tsitsikner" naiogh erexeqi problemy klutsvi
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Isk ov e voroshum, vory pornografia e isk vory voch?
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Ppl, Es mi hat arajark unem, porno servernery miatsnel jamy 24:00-in. Et jamanak informatikai jamin knereq artahaitutians hamar "tsitsikner" naiogh erexeqi problemy klutsvi
vor servenr@? haykakan, amerikyan, rusakan?
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