MP

[Gates]

Kak vi otnisites' k MP MD RA?(Dlyatex kto ne znaet MP MD RA eto Military Police of Ministry of Defence of Republic of Armenia)
Nujna li takaya organizaciya Armenii?
Kak vi dumaete, oni rabotayut pochelovecheski ili net?

[Gates]

Originally posted by Edmon Maroukian:
To Gates
Ete duq sa i nkati chuneiq xndrum em harc@ noric greq u aveli hstak, vor es karoxanam patasxanel.

Goyutyun unen "menter" voronq kextot dzevov en ashxatum (jebi meg plan gcel, glix sarqel, cecelov pokazanianer en vercnum i t.p.) u kan vostikanner voronq hamematabar maqur en ashxatum mardkanc glxnerin chen sarqum, MP-i ashxatoxner@ "ment" en te vostikanner?

Originally posted by Stinger:
Zin dataxazutyun@ heriq chi ???

Et nujna vor ases qaxmasner@ pakenq sovorakan dataxazutjun@ sax ani. Isk et depqum Operativ gorcoxutjunner@ ova anelu?

MP n qnnum e tetev gortser asenq paxust, goxutyun, ev nmanatip ayl hancagortsutyunner, isk Zindataxazutyun@ spanutyunner u nmanatip ayl tsanr hancagortsutyunner, ha mi ban el` orinak ete mi zinvorakan pashtonya hancagortsutyun e arel u nmanatip zinpashtonakan hancagortsutyunner MP n chi karox qnnel dranq miayn Zindataxazutyann en @ndatya

Edmon jan, miqich sxalvum es. MP-yum himnakan 3 oper bajin ka
1) ZIL (Zoramas@ Inqnaglux lqacneri)
2) ZUP (Zinvorakan Unecvacqi Pahpanum)
3) Qreakan Heatqxuzutjun. (menak qreakan gorcererov zbaxvum)
u mi hat el hetaqnchakan bajin ka. Vor oper bajin@ hancagorca brnum (karevorchi dezirtira te mardaspan) naxapatrastuma nyuter uxarkuama hetaqnnchakan bajin et bajin@ nor nyuter@ patrastum u voroshuma gubaxtov prcni te qreakan patasxanutyan entarkvi, es depqum et mardu gorc@ gnuma dataxazutyun. Qreakan gorc harucelu iravunq uni miajn dataxazutyun@.

Originally posted by Griffon2-7:
Urish gorc a, vor orinak, 99-i hoktemberi depqeri zhamanak amen tex gorcum er MP, poxaren orinak vostikanutjuny kam azgajin anvtangutjun@... Da es el chem haskanum.

Vorovhetev, MVD-n u KGB-n xarnvel ein irar, qnereq artahajtutyans hamar, qaqel ein takner@. Iranc naxararner@ azgain joxovum atorneri tak paxkvac ein. Es iranc ashxatoxner@ chgitejin inch anel perevarota sa te inch, u nstac spasum ein incha linelu. Isk Vova Gasparyanin halala! Krakocneric heto 10 ropejva @ntacqum ekav AJ ev 15 rope heto sax shenq@ shrjapatac er. U ete MP-nel xarnver MVD-i u KGB-i nman shat hnaravora vor tetev qaxaciakan paterazm liner.

[Edmon Maroukian]

Originally posted by Griffon2-7:
Vor chisht asem, dzer gracneric ban glux chem hanum...
Iskapes cheq haskanum inchi hamar e naxatesvac MP-n??? Nujn bani hamar e inch, sovorakan vostikanutjuny, bajc banakum carajox andzanc hamar (sa idealakan tarberakn e)... Nman dzevi el kareli e zugaher anckacnel zin.dataxazutjan ev sovorakan dataxazutjan mijev...
Urish gorc a, vor orinak, 99-i hoktemberi depqeri zhamanak amen tex gorcum er MP, poxaren orinak vostikanutjuny kam azgajin anvtangutjun@... Da es el chem haskanum.

Aystex glux hanelu voch mi bard ban chka ete sax hertakanutyamb kardaq khaskanaq da bolorin el parz e inch vor anum e sovorakan vostikanutyun@ ayd nuyn banern el anum en razmakan vostikanutyun@ tarberutyun@ na e, vor meki goprts@ sovorakan qaxaqacineri het e kapvats, isk myusin@ zinvorakanneri het.
99-i hoktemberi jamanak Azgayin Anvtangutyun@ petq e anpayman gortser, vorovhetev Qreakan Datavarutyunov (orensgrqov) e trvats, vor hayreniqi davachanutyun, petakan hexashrjum ev nmanatip gortserov iranq en zbaxvum Es haskanum em te inchi hamar e MP-n, chimanal@ amot chi chharcneln e amot.

[Edmon Maroukian]

Originally posted by Gates

Edmon jan, miqich sxalvum es. MP-yum himnakan 3 oper bajin ka
1) ZIL (Zoramas@ Inqnaglux lqacneri)
2) ZUP (Zinvorakan Unecvacqi Pahpanum)
3) Qreakan Heatqxuzutjun. (menak qreakan gorcererov zbaxvum)
u mi hat el hetaqnchakan bajin ka. Vor oper bajin@ hancagorca brnum (karevorchi dezirtira te mardaspan) naxapatrastuma nyuter uxarkuama hetaqnnchakan bajin et bajin@ nor nyuter@ patrastum u voroshuma gubaxtov prcni te qreakan patasxanutyan entarkvi, es depqum et mardu gorc@ gnuma dataxazutyun. Qreakan gorc harucelu iravunq uni miajn dataxazutyun@.

Es et qo grats@ bolor@ gitem ayd bajinneri masin u iranc operativ ashxatanqneri masin el, bayc stex du es sxalvum, vor mtatsum es te MP n chi karox gorts harucel du da urish bani het es xarnum hima es kasem. MP i (vostikanutyan,dataxazutyan,azgayin anvtangutyan)lyuboi qnnich partavor e ir hertapahutyan jamanak texi unecats u handznaravats gortseri pasteri himan vra qr. gorts harucel u irakanacnel qr. hetapndum ayd amen@ minchev mexadrakan ezrakacutyun storagrel@ qnnichi liazorutyunneri mej e mtnum, isk mexadrakan@ storagrum e dataxaz@ ev gorts@ uxarkum dataran.

Originally posted by Gates

Goyutyun unen "menter" voronq kextot dzevov en ashxatum (jebi meg plan gcel, glix sarqel, cecelov pokazanianer en vercnum i t.p.) u kan vostikanner voronq hamematabar maqur en ashxatum mardkanc glxnerin chen sarqum, MP-i ashxatoxner@ "ment" en te vostikanner?

Gates jan nax ari tarberenq dranc mi hat (ment asvum e @ndhanrapes NG ashxatakicnerin te lav te vat),isk dranq bolorn el vostikanner en prost@ mek@ qo asats metodnerov e ashxatum isk myus@ maqur orenqov. Qo asats metodov ashxatox menterin es urish barov em anvanum (cenzurayic durs aystex grelu chi) im kartsiqov dranc vareln el qich e, isk te MP i ashxatoxner@ inch dzevi en es misht vatn em lsel, bayc nranc mej el lav maqur ashxatoxner klinen` sa im subyektiv kartsiqn e.

[Gates]

Originally posted by Edmon Maroukian:
Es et qo grats@ bolor@ gitem ayd bajinneri masin u iranc operativ ashxatanqneri masin el, bayc stex du es sxalvum, vor mtatsum es te MP n chi karox gorts harucel du da urish bani het es xarnum hima es kasem. MP i (vostikanutyan,dataxazutyan,azgayin anvtangutyan)lyuboi qnnich .....

1998 tvakani verchin Razmakan Vostikanutyan Qnnchakan bajin@ (henc et bajinner er sahmanadrutyan@ hakasum) pakvela, u ajd vaxtvanic MP-yum qnnich chka u ira koxmic chi harucvel voch mi Qreakan gorc, hima MP-yum ka miajn hetaqnnchakan bajin, vorum ashxatum en hetaqnnichner. Voronq iravunq chunen qreakan gorc harucen.

[Edmon Maroukian]

Originally posted by Gates

1998 tvakani verchin Razmakan Vostikanutyan Qnnchakan bajin@ (henc et bajinner er sahmanadrutyan@ hakasum) pakvela, u ajd vaxtvanic MP-yum qnnich chka u ira koxmic chi harucvel voch mi Qreakan gorc, hima MP-yum ka miajn hetaqnnchakan bajin, vorum ashxatum en hetaqnnichner. Voronq iravunq chunen qreakan gorc harucen

Ay axper es dranc het verji angam im tsarayutyan jamanak em shpvel u et qo asats MP i qnnichner@ et jamanak qr. gorts ein harucum, hima es qo asats@ indz shat hetaqrqrec u es aveli konkret kimanam, bayc chem haskanum Sahmanadrutyan@ vonc er hakasum ayd bajin@ ete du gites mi hat manramas@ gri.

[Gates]

Originally posted by Edmon Maroukian:
Ay axper es dranc het verji angam im tsarayutyan jamanak em shpvel u et qo asats MP i qnnichner@ et jamanak qr. gorts ein harucum, hima es qo asats@ indz shat hetaqrqrec u es aveli konkret kimanam, bayc chem haskanum Sahmanadrutyan@ vonc er hakasum ayd bajin@ ete du gites mi hat manramas@ gri.

Qnnchakn gorcoxutyunneri ev qreakan gorc harucelu iravunq uni mian u mian dataxazutyun@. Edmon, du vor tvin es carael?

[Edmon Maroukian]

Originally posted by Gates

Qnnchakn gorcoxutyunneri ev qreakan gorc harucelu iravunq uni mian u mian dataxazutyun@. Edmon, du vor tvin es carael?

Gates jan ay axper du aynqan vstah asecir, vor es el im imacatsi vra kaskatseci . Bayc te ay axper jan che eli tenc chi qo aselov MP n handisanum e hetaqnnutyan marmin, isk hetaqnnutyan marmin@ karox e qnnchakan gortsoxutyunner irakanacnel u qreakan gorts harucel ev 10 orya jamketum handznel gorts@ qnnichin. Aynpes, vor hima erevi du imacar vor qnnchakan gortsoxutyunner u qreakan gorts harucel@ miayn dataxazutyan liazorutyunner@ chen.
Ha es el 1999 ic em tsarayel Mexriyum

[Stinger]

Hima dzer gra&ner@ vor kardum em che` sirts xarnuma ... U avelord angam hamozvum em, vor inch lava vor es hima tohnum em iravabanakan@ !!!
Hima vor nayenq mer hasarakutyan@ iravabannern u miliceq@ hasarak johovurdic shat en ... U bolorn el iranc grpani hastuyan masin en mta&um ... Isk verjin itogum voch mek mer masin chi uzum mta&i ...
Hasarak mi ban qahmasum mi hat iravunqnericd es dzen hanum @nenc en topku pochkeqid vor moranum es bolor orenqneri masin !!!
Ex-ex ...
Mi harc unem vor@ indz tvuma piti mi nor topiki mej qnnarkvi !!!

[Edmon Maroukian]

Originally posted by Stinger

Hima vor nayenq mer hasarakutyan@ iravabannern u miliceq@ hasarak johovurdic shat en ... U bolorn el iranc grpani hastuyan masin en mta&um ... Isk verjin itogum voch mek mer masin chi uzum mta&i ...

Ha chisht es asum, bayc ber IRAVABANNERIN miliceqi het mi hamemati gites inchu` vorovhetev es indz vat em zgum . Heto el inchqan iravunq imacox mardiq shat @lnen aynqan shut mer petutyun@ kdarna iravakan petutyun. U et shat iravabanner@ ete ogut chtan hastat vnas chen ta.
Isk mer masin menq enq mtatselu ete menq mer masin chmtatsenq u nayenq chinovniknerin te inch en anelu mer hamar` kkorchenq. Dra hamar menq petqa mer apagayi ter@ darnanq u urish voch mek.

[Gates]

Originally posted by Edmon Maroukian:
Gates jan ay axper du aynqan vstah asecir, vor es el im imacatsi vra kaskatseci . Bayc te ay axper jan che eli tenc chi qo aselov MP n handisanum e hetaqnnutyan marmin, isk hetaqnnutyan marmin@ karox e qnnchakan gortsoxutyunner irakanacnel u qreakan gorts harucel ev 10 orya jamketum handznel gorts@ qnnichin. Aynpes, vor hima erevi du imacar vor qnnchakan gortsoxutyunner u qreakan gorts harucel@ miayn dataxazutyan liazorutyunner@ chen.
Ha es el 1999 ic em tsarayel Mexriyum

Edmom jan, inchqan es hishum (ete sxalvum em uxxi indz) qreakan gorts@ harucvuma dataxazi makagrutyumb, u anpajman chi glxavor dataxzi (dataxazutyunnerum kan mi qani dataxazner, bajni dataxaz, glxavor dataxaz i t.p.), isk MP-yum dataxaz chka! U es qez HASTAT asem vor 1998-ic MP-n qreakan gorc chi harucel!

[Edmon Maroukian]

Originally posted by Gates

Edmom jan, inchqan es hishum (ete sxalvum em uxxi indz) qreakan gorts@ harucvuma dataxazi makagrutyumb, u anpajman chi glxavor dataxzi (dataxazutyunnerum kan mi qani dataxazner, bajni dataxaz, glxavor dataxaz i t.p.), isk MP-yum dataxaz chka! U es qez HASTAT asem vor 1998-ic MP-n qreakan gorc chi harucel!

Uremn lsi im axper HH um miayn glxavor dataxazutyunum u (Jhangiryani nstavayrum zindataxazutyan kentronum) e, vor kan qo asatsi pes shat dataxazner u bajinner, bajni peter` dataxazner du da xarnel es marzayin u kayazori dataxazi het vortex dranc hakarak mi dataxaz e qaxaqaciakanum mi dataxaz e ira texakalnerov, ognakannerov, avag qnnichnerov ev qnnichnerov. Zindataxazutyunnerum aysinqn kayazori` ka mi dataxaz ira texakalov (mi hogi),ognakannerov, avag qnnichnerov u qnnichnerov Aysqan@ dataxazutyan masin.
Isk @ndhanrapes qreakan gortser@ harucvum en qnnichi hamapatasxan voroshmamab, bnakanabar dataxazn el karox e harucel, bayc voch qo asaci pes miayn datxazi makagrutyamb.
De da harc chi MP um dataxaz chka, bayc vor MP n hetaqnnutyan marmin e ev uni hetaqnnutyan marmni pet (vori liazorutyunneri mej el mtnum e qr. gorts harucel@, qr. gortsi harucel@ merjel@, qr. gorts@ karchel@, kaskatsyalin dzerbakalel@, xapanman mijoc @ntrel@ ev ayl qnnchakan gortsoxutyunner@) dra hamar em es hishum vor MP n qr. gorts er harucel im tsarayutyan jamanak. Inch mnume ayd bajni pakvel@ es ayd harcum qo het chem sporvum qani vor ayd bajni pakveluc heto MP n naxaqnnutyun chi irakanacnum, vorovhetev inq@ amboxjutyamb hetaqnnutyan marmin e, bayc da chi nshanakum vor liazorutyun chuni qr. gorts harucelu ev qnnichin handznelu. Chgitem qo ayd tvyalner@ vortexic e, vor 1998-ic MP-n qreakan gorc chi harucel, vor aydqan vstah asum es` ayd harcum es qo het chem karox sporvel, vorovhetev chgitem harucel en te che, bayc vor da iranc iravunqneri mej mtnum e da hastat kasem indz tvuma hima du hamozvecir (vor asum eir qnnchakan gortsoxutyunner karox e anel miayn u miayn dataxazutyun@), vor lav chgiteir. Ayd bolor@ hetaqnnutyan marmni liazorutyunneri mej mtnum e. Husov em vor amen inch qez parz exav

[Gates]

Chgitem qo ayd tvyalner@ vortexic e, vor 1998-ic MP-n qreakan gorc chi harucel, vor aydqan vstah asum es

Asem vortexic, 1998-i hunisi 10-ic minchev 2000-i majisi 20-@ es carael em HH PN Razmakan Vostikanutyunum vorpes operator-cragravorox, voric 1.5 tari carael em MP-i varchutyunum ZIL (zoramas@ inqnaglux lqacneri) bajnum, ZIL bajni amboxch txtabanutyun@ ev urish bajinneri txtabanutyun mi mas@ ancnum er im dzerov, es mi qani angam grutyun em stacel HH Zindataxazutyuan "esiminch" bajniri dataxazneric (voch kayazori dataxazic), qrekan gorc harucelu veraberyal kam karchelu veraberyal. U hetevum ei mer bajni koxmic berman entarkvacneri veraberyal patrastvac nyuteri hetaga @ntacq@ (mer bajnic 10 orva @ntacqum nyuter@ gnum er hetaqnnchakan bajin, vor@ talis er ajd nyuterin hetaga @ntacq, kam dataxazutyun ein uxarkum NYUTER@ kam zincarayoxin uxarkvum ein zoramas) isk ete berman entarkaci veraberyal qr.gorc kar harucvac, nyuter@ anmigapes uxarkvum er zindataxzutyun u vochmi angam hetaqnnchakan bajin@ chi harucel, kam karchel voreve qr.gorc.

[Edmon Maroukian]

To Gates
Hamamit em` es qez asum ei iranc liazorutyunner@, isk vor @ndhanur cucum er exel (dataxazi cucum@ partadir e) qr. gortser@ harucelu masin da es el gitei. Hima qez asem inchic exav da, vor MP n shat iravaxaxtumner er anum (de du vor ayntex es tsarayel du kimanas iranc ashxatelavoch@) mardu iravunqneri xaxtumner dra hamar el nerqin cucum exav vor qr. gortser@ dataxazutyun@ miayn haruci u iranc hskoxutyan tak lini. Hima parza du el dranic ezrakacrel es, vor iranq iravunq chunen (ayd bolor@ anelu) dra hamar el im het sporvum eir.

[Gates]

Originally posted by Edmon Maroukian:
To Gates
Hamamit em` es qez asum ei iranc liazorutyunner@, isk vor @ndhanur cucum er exel (dataxazi cucum@ partadir e) qr. gortser@ harucelu masin da es el gitei. Hima qez asem inchic exav da, vor MP n shat iravaxaxtumner er anum (de du vor ayntex es tsarayel du kimanas iranc ashxatelavoch@) mardu iravunqneri xaxtumner dra hamar el nerqin cucum exav vor qr. gortser@ dataxazutyun@ miayn haruci u iranc hskoxutyan tak lini. Hima parza du el dranic ezrakacrel es, vor iranq iravunq chunen (ayd bolor@ anelu) dra hamar el im het sporvum eir.

Ok, parza liazorutyunneri harc@ parzvec.
Isk inch verabervuma iranc ashxatelavochin, et el asem, vor MP-i Varchutyun@ ev Erevan qaxaqi bajin@ (rajonneri masin ban chem kara asem) ashxatum en bavakanin mardavari, shat aveli maqur qan NG bajinner@ (vochmeki pochkeqin chen xpum)! Es erku tarva @ntacqum chem tesel vor MP-i ashxatakicneri koxmic inchvor zinvori "glxin sarqvi" kam ira hancanq@ txtabanoren urachcvi, vor shat pox "poken".

[Edmon Maroukian]

Originaly posted by GATES
Ok, parza liazorutyunneri harc@ parzvec.
Isk inch verabervuma iranc ashxatelavochin, et el asem, vor MP-i Varchutyun@ ev Erevan qaxaqi bajin@ (rajonneri masin ban chem kara asem) ashxatum en bavakanin mardavari, shat aveli maqur qan NG bajinner@ (vochmeki pochkeqin chen xpum)! Es erku tarva @ntacqum chem tesel vor MP-i ashxatakicneri koxmic inchvor zinvori "glxin sarqvi" kam ira hancanq@ txtabanoren urachcvi, vor shat pox "poken".[/QB][/quote]
Ay et chgitei es henc gitei sax texern en dranq tenc, bayc te tramabanakan a gites de Erevan tex kentron a eli saxi achqi araj aydqn iravapashtpan kazmakerputyunner@ @tex dra hamar el orinakan en ashxatum. Astvats ta sax texern el tenc @lni.