EMINEM: za i protiv - Page 2

LonelyGirl · Aug 28, 2002, 03:41

Ppl kak vi otnosites' k Eminem'u??????

Azabochenni · Aug 30, 2002, 17:23

Dear Pinehead

Someone could like Pac' , someone could hate him.
Someone could like Eminem, someone could hate him.

I ain't talkin about that.
I'm talkin about HOLY stuff(read n understand dis carefully)

In my opinion people have 2 have some holy stuff.
EMINEM's n D12 lyrics are without HOLY

4 Armenians (I'm Armenian 22), sister , mother, brother, father are HOLY untachable.

Of courze Pac iz not Armenian mentality
But at least he sang Dear Mama, and not
My motherfu©kin fat mom

I have 2 say it again Someone could take it serious, someone could take it joke
But I can't understand how Armenians even jockingly can say

My Motherfu©kin Fat Mom

D reason I listen Pac is deeper. D Outlawz ex-member(R.I.P. him) Yaki Kadafi(Yefu Fula) waz my big brother , big friend(I'm from Callifornia, USA), and now I'm firend with his small brother Issmail Fula who is rappin' at our Records(PH Records).
Issmail took Yaki's femlly nick
and now Ismail rappin' with a name Yuz Kadafi
I('m wery close 2 almost all peeps from D Outlawz , n I know life of Pac n Yak perfectly
Dat's not a stuff 2 deal with or learn from, dat's just a crazy East2West Competition n War.
So I won't say that Pac is everything in RAP(Public Enemy is almost everything in rap)
But Pac has nice lyrics. He got lots of junck lyrics (esspecialy now, when Death Row made from Pac just money maker sound).
4 Example Pac's songs teach us something close 2 Armenians mentality

Wonder why dey call u bitch
Shorty wann' b thug
Dear Mama
Bebe don't cry
Keep ya head up
Life of n Outlaw
If I Die Tonite

And 4 d last my hommie Pinehead,

Strictly 4 My Niggaz don't mantion dat it's for nigguz
4 example I got here lot's of black friendz, whom I call as <Yo nigga>, n who call me to <Yo nigga>
but I'm not a black

Word Nigga fro black means just person, like <ape> in Armenian

SYSTEM · Aug 30, 2002, 21:29

....da ego lirika ne dlya Armyan.
esli snyat' vse slova tipa ****, **** , bitch..i.t.d. mojet shto-nibud' i ostanetsya

No shuma on nadelal.

Pinhead · Aug 31, 2002, 05:25

To Verse V/Azabochenni
Ok, i agree with the most. and sorry for Yaki
but you shouldn't blacken Eminem and post those lyrics only. well i guess he just feels free to bitch on every person he hates, and he hates his mother, that's for sure. That just means that she's not "holy" for him, nothing else. Sure it's barely acceptable for Armenians, but those are the American ways, and 2Pac for example is not too far. And then again, Eminem has quite "holy" songs about his love to his daughter

P.S. Public Enemy are great!

neEdle · Aug 31, 2002, 15:16

2 pinhead
pin jan,indz uxaki petqer grel vor es iranits ZZVUM em,isk te inchia inq@ vat@,...de gites vonts amen meki hamar mi dzev,vat u lav baner chkan sax haraberakana! bayts es iranits ZZZZZZZVUM em

neEdle · Aug 31, 2002, 15:19

2 pinhead
P.S. u da indz petq chi himnavorel kam apatsutsel

Pinhead · Aug 31, 2002, 22:55

Needle, eli zzvi, yesel em shat banic zzvum, bayts zzvel@ u asel@ vor ink@ vatna tarber baner en. Ete asum es vor zzvum es karas chhimnavores, et ko sepakan motecumna ira handep, bayts du asum es vor ink@ zibilanoci abranka yev ayln, et arden partavorvacutyun a dnum ko vra bacatrel te inchia ink@ etkan vat@. Ko arac@ interneti kulturayum kochvum a "flame" u dra hamar shat forumnerum u chaterum kickban en anum

neEdle · Sep 1, 2002, 17:50

2 Pinhead

lav davay sents du asa incha qez talis EMNM-i lirican,ira mtqer@(ete uni eli),esel asem te inchia etqan vat@ inq@,isk kick anelu hamar PLZ karas hanes indz es forumits

DRUID · Sep 1, 2002, 18:16

Kogda nachinayu ponimat' evo teksti to okazivayetsya shto krome rap-a vse fignya. imenno za eto ne lyublyu, a teksti nravyatsya.

LonelyGirl · Sep 1, 2002, 19:22

To neEdle

Gites inch du karas iranic inchqan uzum es zzves....baic da qez iravunq chi tali asel vor na Sovetasheni apranqa....U inc tvuma vor du erevi kyanqumt der normal Eminem(voobshe rap) ches lsel.
U es karcum em vor iran karelia chsirel baic xotia bi hargel petqa!!!

DRUID · Sep 1, 2002, 20:50

Quote:

Originally posted by LonelyGirl:
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U es karcum em vor iran karelia chsirel baic xotia bi hargel petqa!!!

А за что уважать то????
Если так то получается шо надо уважать и самую отвратительную папсу

neEdle · Sep 1, 2002, 22:53

2 Lonely Girl

hargel??

inchi hamar?
ira vor podvigi hamar hargel??isk es RAP enqan shat chem sirum vor et normal banel chem hamarum,indz petqel chi "normal" RAP lsel

Verse V · Sep 2, 2002, 14:26

Yo young figguz

RAP is culure if truth
U know people can lsitren about flowers and shinning sun everything, but that's not a true life

So if we wan' compare any RAPPAZ we gonn' compare how true r they tellin'
pr in other words
Is it commercial or not.

Pac waz not comercial till 1995-1996. Album All Eyez on Me is ful om commercial **** .
Proof
Pac and Dr. Dre - California Love
Pac always hated Dre
In other song he said

U nigga made a mistake (Suge)
Puttin my Rhymes 'side of Dre

Continuing from rap hostory we will c Eminem full of comercial $hit

I'm not a apostol screaming "b an angel"
But in old school years people know why 2 fight what 2 fight 4.
PUblic Enemy waz a big deal in Political Rap, he waz d voice of black people
Pac waz d voice of gngsta /political rap till that east west bool****

I like now D Outlawz couze now they r out ofcommercial things
Noone could ell 'em now what 2 sing, what they can sell now....
Juvenile and his Cash Money Staff r full of commercial things, They r just part of UniversL Records.
THat's d only reason that u might c Juvenile of one of his Records boys at MTV but never might c there D Outlawz

Talant is nothing in this rap game.
That's what we gonn' sing now. That's wnat we gonn' show peopel now

When u r independent records(such as our Playa Headz Records(PH) or D Outlawz Records) u might never make people know u.
U sell 19 $ 4 CD, and get 18 $ of that as ya money
But u might sell dat way only 10 CD
Juvenile sell 19$ 4 CD and get's only 1.5 $ 4 CD, but he sells thousends of copies a year.
So what is adventage of independent rap

I SAID, I SAY AND I WILL SAY
INDEPENENCE

U can sing what u wan' say, and noone could make u change d word in d rap $hit

BUt all we lose, people don\t know about us

When Napoleon sang that words(I already wrote lyrics here)
WHy "FU©K FRIENDZ"?????
Couze all them started togheter Jay Z, Nappy Roots, and others....
But they cheated a friendz.
When Pac waz alive Jay Z used 2 sang 4 him and used 2 scream a lot

Oh my big brotha 2Pac, Oh my Outlaw soljas(2 all of them at Outlaw) but now he even not greats Outlaw soljaz

So how can now people belife in friendship
How can now E.D.I Mean(D Outlawz) not sing

I walk around with knife in my back

THis is wah thappenes everyday
THere is philosopical branch, existencionalizm (Sartr, Camus, Nichshe,...)
Now what we (PH and d Outlawz) gonn' do , we gonn' put it in our lyrics
Make people c that life is full of crap
Ain't no good in dis life except moments of sunshine(it tooks so short)

Eminem is just a rap 4 people under age 15.
I c it here.
I c it everyday in here or even when I'm in Yerevan , Moscow

It's commercial
U know people r so mad in our century , teens hate their parents at d USA, so put in lyrics agressiv attitude 2 d parents and everyteenager would buy ya album
Say Eminem
troat my mother's mouth
N Every stupid ass of d USA will buy it....
Everything is preaty easy 2 understand

People r not goin' deep deep into lyrics,what that person wanted 2 say

Eeryone knows here and there 2Pac,
When in Armeina we say RAP, people understand 2Pac, and what is worst they understand Hit'em Up

Song which is toooo personal. I listen hit'em up, couze I know what it is about. I understand ever word of there, couze Isaw n listen what happenes between them

Noone says
2Pac ohhhhhhhh it's Keep Ya Head Up

But I can say that's one of d greatest song of Pac

D Same as Eminem,
Everyone say Eminem ok Slim SHady, Without Me, ....
But Eminem hasalso good songs, not so popular, couze they r out of commercial

Eminem is just a weapon on some politics 2 nigguz around US
"C, rap is not rassism, c rap is not 4 black people....."

It's already rassism

I remember Public Enemie's Chuck D's interview 2 MTV (I have it on CD)

Reporter asks him
- U always in ya rap ask a rassitical questionz, why, ??? people made u big rassist
He answers
-Questions can't b rassistical, Answers can b

Eminem is just another answer 2 d black males

chuchoo · Sep 4, 2002, 03:00

Quote:

U es karcum em vor iran karelia chsirel baic xotia bi hargel petqa!!!

А за что , собственно говоря ?!

Pinhead · Sep 4, 2002, 05:41

Verse V:
Yeah, i know he's commercional. But commercial doesn't mean bad. And i don't think people in USA like Eminem because they hate their parents. I love my parents and i like Eminem.
Ok, maybe Eminem's lyrics have baaad meaning but they are arranged very well. only that can make someone like him, not even to mention all the other things i wrote before.

Yaki · Sep 4, 2002, 17:11

NU Nornal'no Lseluc heto ira verji album@!!!!
Makardaka!!!!!
Es chgitem bayc vorncor sovorakan buisnes-ova zbaxvum!!!!
Ete chliner DRE-n cher lini EMINEM-@
Tak Chto
DRE-Best BEST RAP Produser!!!!

Aug 30, 2002, 17:23	#16
Azabochenni Младенец Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Yerevan,Armenia Posts: 19 Rep Power: 0 Reputation: 10	Dear Pinehead Someone could like Pac' , someone could hate him. Someone could like Eminem, someone could hate him. I ain't talkin about that. I'm talkin about HOLY stuff(read n understand dis carefully) In my opinion people have 2 have some holy stuff. EMINEM's n D12 lyrics are without HOLY 4 Armenians (I'm Armenian 22), sister , mother, brother, father are HOLY untachable. Of courze Pac iz not Armenian mentality But at least he sang Dear Mama, and not My motherfu©kin fat mom I have 2 say it again Someone could take it serious, someone could take it joke But I can't understand how Armenians even jockingly can say My Motherfu©kin Fat Mom D reason I listen Pac is deeper. D Outlawz ex-member(R.I.P. him) Yaki Kadafi(Yefu Fula) waz my big brother , big friend(I'm from Callifornia, USA), and now I'm firend with his small brother Issmail Fula who is rappin' at our Records(PH Records). Issmail took Yaki's femlly nick and now Ismail rappin' with a name Yuz Kadafi I('m wery close 2 almost all peeps from D Outlawz , n I know life of Pac n Yak perfectly Dat's not a stuff 2 deal with or learn from, dat's just a crazy East2West Competition n War. So I won't say that Pac is everything in RAP(Public Enemy is almost everything in rap) But Pac has nice lyrics. He got lots of junck lyrics (esspecialy now, when Death Row made from Pac just money maker sound). 4 Example Pac's songs teach us something close 2 Armenians mentality Wonder why dey call u bitch Shorty wann' b thug Dear Mama Bebe don't cry Keep ya head up Life of n Outlaw If I Die Tonite And 4 d last my hommie Pinehead, Strictly 4 My Niggaz don't mantion dat it's for nigguz 4 example I got here lot's of black friendz, whom I call as <Yo nigga>, n who call me to <Yo nigga> but I'm not a black Word Nigga fro black means just person, like <ape> in Armenian __________________ F... U ALL

Aug 30, 2002, 21:29	#17
SYSTEM Студент Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kirovakan Posts: 312 Rep Power: 7 Reputation: 10	....da ego lirika ne dlya Armyan. esli snyat' vse slova tipa **, , bitch..i.t.d. mojet shto-nibud' i ostanetsya No shuma on nadelal. __________________ ************************* HinZ The System !!! http://soad.hay.am http://freenet.am/~tool/

Aug 31, 2002, 15:16	#19
neEdle Школьник Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: СіЫілпіЭ Posts: 202 Rep Power: 7 Reputation: 10	2 pinhead pin jan,indz uxaki petqer grel vor es iranits ZZVUM em,isk te inchia inq@ vat@,...de gites vonts amen meki hamar mi dzev,vat u lav baner chkan sax haraberakana! bayts es iranits ZZZZZZZVUM em __________________ si vis pacem para bellum

Aug 31, 2002, 15:19	#20
neEdle Школьник Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: СіЫілпіЭ Posts: 202 Rep Power: 7 Reputation: 10	2 pinhead P.S. u da indz petq chi himnavorel kam apatsutsel __________________ si vis pacem para bellum

Sep 1, 2002, 17:50	#22
neEdle Школьник Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: СіЫілпіЭ Posts: 202 Rep Power: 7 Reputation: 10	2 Pinhead lav davay sents du asa incha qez talis EMNM-i lirican,ira mtqer@(ete uni eli),esel asem te inchia etqan vat@ inq@,isk kick anelu hamar PLZ karas hanes indz es forumits __________________ si vis pacem para bellum

Aug 28, 2002, 03:41
LonelyGirl Младенец Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Erevan Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0 Reputation: 10	EMINEM: za i protiv Ppl kak vi otnosites' k Eminem'u?????? __________________ Best regards.

Aug 31, 2002, 05:25	#18
Pinhead Banned Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Yerevan Posts: 1,646 Rep Power: 0 Reputation: 10	To Verse V/Azabochenni Ok, i agree with the most. and sorry for Yaki but you shouldn't blacken Eminem and post those lyrics only. well i guess he just feels free to bitch on every person he hates, and he hates his mother, that's for sure. That just means that she's not "holy" for him, nothing else. Sure it's barely acceptable for Armenians, but those are the American ways, and 2Pac for example is not too far. And then again, Eminem has quite "holy" songs about his love to his daughter P.S. Public Enemy are great!

Aug 31, 2002, 22:55	#21
Pinhead Banned Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Yerevan Posts: 1,646 Rep Power: 0 Reputation: 10	Needle, eli zzvi, yesel em shat banic zzvum, bayts zzvel@ u asel@ vor ink@ vatna tarber baner en. Ete asum es vor zzvum es karas chhimnavores, et ko sepakan motecumna ira handep, bayts du asum es vor ink@ zibilanoci abranka yev ayln, et arden partavorvacutyun a dnum ko vra bacatrel te inchia ink@ etkan vat@. Ko arac@ interneti kulturayum kochvum a "flame" u dra hamar shat forumnerum u chaterum kickban en anum

Sep 1, 2002, 18:16	#23
DRUID Member of AMD army. Join Date: May 2002 Location: AthlonXP2700+ cpu core Posts: 734 Rep Power: 7 Reputation: 10	Kogda nachinayu ponimat' evo teksti to okazivayetsya shto krome rap-a vse fignya. imenno za eto ne lyublyu, a teksti nravyatsya. __________________ I Dedicate My Power To The Horde!

Sep 1, 2002, 19:22	#24
LonelyGirl Младенец Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Erevan Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0 Reputation: 10	To neEdle Gites inch du karas iranic inchqan uzum es zzves....baic da qez iravunq chi tali asel vor na Sovetasheni apranqa....U inc tvuma vor du erevi kyanqumt der normal Eminem(voobshe rap) ches lsel. U es karcum em vor iran karelia chsirel baic xotia bi hargel petqa!!! __________________ Best regards.

Sep 1, 2002, 22:53	#26
neEdle Школьник Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: СіЫілпіЭ Posts: 202 Rep Power: 7 Reputation: 10	2 Lonely Girl hargel?? inchi hamar? ira vor podvigi hamar hargel??isk es RAP enqan shat chem sirum vor et normal banel chem hamarum,indz petqel chi "normal" RAP lsel __________________ si vis pacem para bellum

Sep 2, 2002, 14:26	#27
Verse V Младенец Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: LA, USA Posts: 40 Rep Power: 0 Reputation: 10	Yo young figguz RAP is culure if truth U know people can lsitren about flowers and shinning sun everything, but that's not a true life So if we wan' compare any RAPPAZ we gonn' compare how true r they tellin' pr in other words Is it commercial or not. Pac waz not comercial till 1995-1996. Album All Eyez on Me is ful om commercial ** . Proof Pac and Dr. Dre - California Love Pac always hated Dre In other song he said U nigga made a mistake (Suge) Puttin my Rhymes 'side of Dre Continuing from rap hostory we will c Eminem full of comercial $hit I'm not a apostol screaming "b an angel" But in old school years people know why 2 fight what 2 fight 4. PUblic Enemy waz a big deal in Political Rap, he waz d voice of black people Pac waz d voice of gngsta /political rap till that east west bool** I like now D Outlawz couze now they r out ofcommercial things Noone could ell 'em now what 2 sing, what they can sell now.... Juvenile and his Cash Money Staff r full of commercial things, They r just part of UniversL Records. THat's d only reason that u might c Juvenile of one of his Records boys at MTV but never might c there D Outlawz Talant is nothing in this rap game. That's what we gonn' sing now. That's wnat we gonn' show peopel now When u r independent records(such as our Playa Headz Records(PH) or D Outlawz Records) u might never make people know u. U sell 19 $ 4 CD, and get 18 $ of that as ya money But u might sell dat way only 10 CD Juvenile sell 19$ 4 CD and get's only 1.5 $ 4 CD, but he sells thousends of copies a year. So what is adventage of independent rap I SAID, I SAY AND I WILL SAY INDEPENENCE U can sing what u wan' say, and noone could make u change d word in d rap $hit BUt all we lose, people don\t know about us When Napoleon sang that words(I already wrote lyrics here) WHy "FU©K FRIENDZ"????? Couze all them started togheter Jay Z, Nappy Roots, and others.... But they cheated a friendz. When Pac waz alive Jay Z used 2 sang 4 him and used 2 scream a lot Oh my big brotha 2Pac, Oh my Outlaw soljas(2 all of them at Outlaw) but now he even not greats Outlaw soljaz So how can now people belife in friendship How can now E.D.I Mean(D Outlawz) not sing I walk around with knife in my back THis is wah thappenes everyday THere is philosopical branch, existencionalizm (Sartr, Camus, Nichshe,...) Now what we (PH and d Outlawz) gonn' do , we gonn' put it in our lyrics Make people c that life is full of crap Ain't no good in dis life except moments of sunshine(it tooks so short) Eminem is just a rap 4 people under age 15. I c it here. I c it everyday in here or even when I'm in Yerevan , Moscow It's commercial U know people r so mad in our century , teens hate their parents at d USA, so put in lyrics agressiv attitude 2 d parents and everyteenager would buy ya album Say Eminem troat my mother's mouth N Every stupid ass of d USA will buy it.... Everything is preaty easy 2 understand People r not goin' deep deep into lyrics,what that person wanted 2 say Eeryone knows here and there 2Pac, When in Armeina we say RAP, people understand 2Pac, and what is worst they understand Hit'em Up Song which is toooo personal. I listen hit'em up, couze I know what it is about. I understand ever word of there, couze Isaw n listen what happenes between them Noone says 2Pac ohhhhhhhh it's Keep Ya Head Up But I can say that's one of d greatest song of Pac D Same as Eminem, Everyone say Eminem ok Slim SHady, Without Me, .... But Eminem hasalso good songs, not so popular, couze they r out of commercial Eminem is just a weapon on some politics 2 nigguz around US "C, rap is not rassism, c rap is not 4 black people....." It's already rassism I remember Public Enemie's Chuck D's interview 2 MTV (I have it on CD) Reporter asks him - U always in ya rap ask a rassitical questionz, why, ??? people made u big rassist He answers -Questions can't b rassistical, Answers can b Eminem is just another answer 2 d black males __________________ THERE IS HOPE SOMEWHERE I JUST NEED TO FIND IT...

Sep 4, 2002, 05:41	#29
Pinhead Banned Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Yerevan Posts: 1,646 Rep Power: 0 Reputation: 10	Verse V: Yeah, i know he's commercional. But commercial doesn't mean bad. And i don't think people in USA like Eminem because they hate their parents. I love my parents and i like Eminem. Ok, maybe Eminem's lyrics have baaad meaning but they are arranged very well. only that can make someone like him, not even to mention all the other things i wrote before.

Sep 4, 2002, 17:11	#30
Yaki killa-hilla Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Yaktown Posts: 383 Rep Power: 7 Reputation: 10	NU Nornal'no Lseluc heto ira verji album@!!!! Makardaka!!!!! Es chgitem bayc vorncor sovorakan buisnes-ova zbaxvum!!!! Ete chliner DRE-n cher lini EMINEM-@ Tak Chto DRE-Best BEST RAP Produser!!!! __________________ Live Free or die...

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