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Old 01.04.2005, 20:27   #31
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А говорят что А1+ много ругала правительство за его грешки.
В итоге оно не дало лицензию на вещание ... . Но зато мы каждый вечер смотрим АЛМ
В общем не понятно чему вы так радуетесь ?
И кстате есть ли какие либо доказательства того что А1+ платили ?

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Old 01.04.2005, 20:29   #32
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Зато с полной прямотой. Молодец
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Mozhno pointeresovatsya,
A PanArmenian nikogda ne poluchal deneg ot OSI ?
Odin raz poluchil.
Potom okonchatel'no s OSI razrugalsya i reshil, chto grant projects - ne nashe.

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Ya ne znayu, navernoe to, chto budu pisat nizhe-flud
No, a kak na schet deneg Gagika Tsarukyana, Hranta Vardanyana, Levona Sargsyana, Samvela Aleksanyana i t.d. kotorie tozhe shli v massu radi obratnogo togo o chem govorit Pascal.
Raznitsa kachestvennaya i sushestvennaya - oni nashi vnutrennie tovarishi i finansirovanie imi SMI nazyvaetsya lobbizmom.
A finansirovanie SMI iz-za rubezha - mozhet nazyvat'sya sozdaniem seti agentov vliyaniya.

Pochustvuyte raznitsu kak govoritsya.

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Old 02.04.2005, 15:46   #36
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А говорят что А1+ много ругала правительство за его грешки.
Pravda.

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В итоге оно не дало лицензию на вещание ... .
Ty vidimo ne sovsem informirovan - A1+ proigrala v konkurse predlozheniy na chastotu. Konkretno komissiyu ne ustroil plan deystviy na blizhayshee vremya.
Kogda zakon trebuet togo, chtob byli predstavleny garantii kachestvennogo veshaniya - komissii byla predostavlena fil'kina gramota na 2 stranichkakh. Konkuriruyushiy s nimi project kompanii sharm byla naborom dokumentov iz ~250 stranits.
A t.k. komissiya dolzhna osnovyvat'sya na konkretnykh faktakh i dokumentakh - komissiya poslala A1+ daleko..... v istoriyu.

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Но зато мы каждый вечер смотрим АЛМ
I eto odin iz samykh vostrebovannykh kanalov.

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В общем не понятно чему вы так радуетесь ?
Ya naprimer raduyus' kol-vu energii.

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И кстате есть ли какие либо доказательства того что А1+ платили ?
Dokazatel'stva mogut byt' tolko v sude, uvazhaemiy.

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Old 02.04.2005, 16:06   #37
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Ne dozhdetes, <Armenia TV> ne zakroetsya, a esli zakroetsya, to akciyi po etomu povodu vryat li budut provoditsya
Еще как будут, что будет делать армянская молодежь без каргин ахордум а?
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И кстате есть ли какие либо доказательства того что А1+ платили ?
Dokazatel'stva mogut byt' tolko v sude, uvazhaemiy.

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esli ne mojete privesti dokazatel'stva, mojet i ne stoilo namekat'?
ni odno obyavlenie Izabelli o kakoy-t grajdanskoy akcii esho ne obosholos' bez vashix namekov i napadaniy na nee. net, kakie nameki? vi otkritim textom periodicheski obvinyali ee, 4to vse eto ona delaet radi deneg, chto poluchaet dengi za eto iz zapada, iz sorosa, itd itp. polagayu u vas est' veskie dokozatel'stva ot "nadejnix istochnikov"? tk po4emu vam ne predyavit' eti fakti tol'ko pered sudom? a na brostat' nameki na kajdom shagu i oskorblyat' Izabel'?

ot kuda vasha agressiya i takoe otrecatel'noe otnoshenie k deyatel'nosti etoy otvajnoy molodoy jenshini? vi schitaete, chto v nashem obshestve vse ideal'no? chto grajdani ne imeyut nikakix problem? chto prava vsex v RA zashisheni?? a est' ludi, kto tak ne schitayut. iz nix kto beznadejno i bezdel'no sidit, a kto-t pitaetca chego-t dobivatca, chto-t izmenit' k ludshemu, za chto-t borot'ca, xotyabi dat' ponyat' verxam, 4to ludi ne dovol'ni ix deystviyami i gotovi borot'ca za spravedlivost', xotyabi dat' kakuyu-t dinamiku nashemu intertnomu apatichnemu obshestvu.
mirnie akcii, protest marshi, meetingi i t.d. vo vsem civilizovannom mire yavlyaetca odnim iz sposobov' viskazat' volyu grajdan, protestovat' nespravedlivim deystviyam pravitel'stv i vlast imevshix, vliyat' na ix resheniya.. eto i est' demokratiya. s nezavisimost'yu armeniya brala put' k demokratii. po4itayte 1ie stroki konstitucii RA, koli vi ee slujite.

takimi xrabrimi lud'mi, kak Izabella, mojno tol'ko gorditca i vosxishat'ca, a ne brosat' kamen' na nix. ladno, ne vosxishaetes ili delaete vid, 4to ne vosxishaetes - vashe lichnee delo, nu xot' molchite?
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Otkryvaem gazetu AybFe na razvorote - i chitaem o proekte realizovannom sovmestno s institutom grazhdanskogo obsestva.

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esli ne mojete privesti dokazatel'stva, mojet i ne stoilo namekat'?
Dokazatel'stva v predydushem poste.

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ni odno obyavlenie Izabelli o kakoy-t grajdanskoy akcii esho ne obosholos' bez vashix namekov i napadaniy na nee.
Primer lichnykh napadok - v studiyu!

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net, kakie nameki? vi otkritim textom periodicheski obvinyali ee, 4to vse eto ona delaet radi deneg, chto poluchaet dengi za eto iz zapada, iz sorosa, itd itp. polagayu u vas est' veskie dokozatel'stva ot "nadejnix istochnikov"? tk po4emu vam ne predyavit' eti fakti tol'ko pered sudom? a na brostat' nameki na kajdom shagu i oskorblyat' Izabel'?
Fakt na tsentral'nom razvorote gazety AybFe.

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ot kuda vasha agressiya i takoe otrecatel'noe otnoshenie k deyatel'nosti etoy otvajnoy molodoy jenshini?
Nu ne lyublyu ya revolyutsionerov. Vot vrode i vse.

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vi schitaete, chto v nashem obshestve vse ideal'no?
Net ne schitayu. No schitayu, chto zakonomerno.

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chto grajdani ne imeyut nikakix problem?
Imeyut.

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chto prava vsex v RA zashisheni??
Ne vsegda.
Ne pripisyvayte mne vyskazyvaniy kotorykh ya ne delal, PLS.

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a est' ludi, kto tak ne schitayut. iz nix kto beznadejno i bezdel'no sidit, a kto-t pitaetca chego-t dobivatca, chto-t izmenit' k ludshemu, za chto-t borot'ca, xotyabi dat' ponyat' verxam, 4to ludi ne dovol'ni ix deystviyami i gotovi borot'ca za spravedlivost', xotyabi dat' kakuyu-t dinamiku nashemu intertnomu apatichnemu obshestvu. mirnie akcii, protest marshi, meetingi i t.d. vo vsem civilizovannom mire yavlyaetca odnim iz sposobov' viskazat' volyu grajdan, protestovat' nespravedlivim deystviyam pravitel'stv i vlast imevshix, vliyat' na ix resheniya..
Eti lyudi dolzhny ne po ulitsam khosit' - a byt' v kakoy-to partii.
A znaete pochemu oni ne v partii? A potomu, chto nel'zya zapadnym fondam partii finansirovat'. Vot poetomu i ne vstupayut nikuda.
A nashet mirnykh aktsiy i vsego takogo - ya chestno govorya ne protiv. Tol'ko togda kogda etim zanimayutsya ne za den'gi.

Prekrasniy primer - priezd Kirkorova.
Kto protiv etogo protestoval?
Isabella? net.
Vsyacheskie Khel'sinkskie gruppy? Net.
Vse nashi pravoza****niki i NGO? Net.
Protestovala partiya. I svoego dobilas'.

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eto i est' demokratiya. s nezavisimost'yu armeniya brala put' k demokratii. po4itayte 1ie stroki konstitucii RA, koli vi ee slujite.
Ya sluzhu Konstitutsiyu! Ura, tovarishi!

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takimi xrabrimi lud'mi, kak Izabella, mojno tol'ko gorditca i vosxishat'ca, a ne brosat' kamen' na nix. ladno, ne vosxishaetes ili delaete vid, 4to ne vosxishaetes - vashe lichnee delo, nu xot' molchite?
Ya prekrasno znayu Izabellu, i moe otnoshenie k ney vpolne prilichnoe i druzhelyubnoe. Prosto my po-raznomu vosprinimaem deystvitel'nost', i podkhodim k ney s razlichnykh storon.
I v chem prichina Vashey neadekvatnoy reaktsii - ya ne sovsem ponimayu.

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Otkryvaem gazetu AybFe na razvorote - i chitaem o proekte realizovannom sovmestno s institutom grazhdanskogo obsestva.

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sorry my ignorance, never heard of AybFe. maybe you could hint me the url? & why instead of answering my questions, you send me to AybFe? AybFe gives answers to all problems in Armenia? is it a must for every armenian citizen to read AybFe?
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Redaktsiya A1+ v polnom sostave nachala izdavat' gazetu AybFe, posle zakrytiya.
Materialy gazety AybFe mozhno nayti v Internet po adresu www. a1plus .am, predvaritel'no ubrav iz adresa probely.
Tak chto AybFe i A1plus - bliznetsy - bratya.
Pochti kak partiya i Lenin.

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Primer lichnykh napadok - v studiyu!
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2Isabella
Tak kto eto my?
Na listovke ne podpisano.
Khotya esli listovka est', znachit ona otpechatana. Blagotvoritel'nykh tipografiy zdes' net.
Sledovatel'no eti "My" libo v sostoyanii privlech' sobstvennye resursy, libo vneshnie.
Tak kto eto MY?

Da i eshe - esli "VY" takie khoroshie - pochemu nazvanie vashey organizatsii skryvaetsya?
Vot ty predstavlyaesh, chto Krasniy Krest ne otvechal by na vopros - a kto eto oni?
Znachit tseli u "VAS" drugie.

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tut: Акция против разрушения исторического памятника !
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Vot ob etom i rech'.

A eto znachit, chto ocherednye Sorosovskie denezhki poshli v massy.

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v dannom topice.

ne polenilas, 4o-t nashla. but let's save my time & forum space.
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Fakt na tsentral'nom razvorote gazety AybFe.
blagodaru za info on AybFe.
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Tak gde ya v privedennom Vami fragmente zadel Isabellu lichno?
Ili upasi Bozhe ee oskorbil?
Ili skazal ey yavnuyu merzost'?

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Nu ne lyublyu ya revolyutsionerov. Vot vrode i vse.
revolucioneri sami sebya ne obyavlayutca. ix proyavlenie v luboy obshestve signalit o sereznix politicheskix i social'nix problemax v etom obshestve. nikto ot xoroshey jizni, blagopalu4iya i skuki ne viydet na ulici za chto-t borot'ca, riskovat' sobstvennoy jiznu, sobstvennim imushestvom..
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Net ne schitayu. No schitayu, chto zakonomerno.
a ya schitayu, 4to eto NE ZAKONomerno. i ne tol'ko ya.

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Imeyut.
otvet verniy. a chto lichno vi delaete dla vashix sograjdan? ili schitaete, 4to eti problemi lichno vas ne kosayutca, sledovatel'no vi ne obyazani nichego sdelat'? ves'ma normal'niy podxod k vesham. no pri etom mojet ne nado kritikovat' tex, kto ostavlyayut svoyu lichnuyu jizn, svoi lichnie problemi, i pitayutca chto-t sdelat vo blago obshestva?

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Ne vsegda.
Ne pripisyvayte mne vyskazyvaniy kotorykh ya ne delal, PLS.
i won't.

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Eti lyudi dolzhny ne po ulitsam khosit' - a byt' v kakoy-to partii.
A znaete pochemu oni ne v partii? A potomu, chto nel'zya zapadnym fondam partii finansirovat'. Vot poetomu i ne vstupayut nikuda.
A nashet mirnykh aktsiy i vsego takogo - ya chestno govorya ne protiv. Tol'ko togda kogda etim zanimayutsya ne za den'gi.

Prekrasniy primer - priezd Kirkorova.
Kto protiv etogo protestoval?
Isabella? net.
Vsyacheskie Khel'sinkskie gruppy? Net.
Vse nashi pravoza****niki i NGO? Net.
Protestovala partiya. I svoego dobilas'.
po4emu eti ludi ne sostoyat v partii? i mne i vam prekrasno izvestna politicheskaya i moral'naya gnilost' nashix politicheskiy partiy. postupit' v pravyashie partii?) ili v oppozicionernie? ili samim sozdat' novuyu partiyu? a kto voobshe pri nashix metodax parlamentskix viborov dozvolit partiyu iz prostix grajdan zanimat' xot' nichnojnuyu poziciyu? otnud' ne obezatel'no vxodit v politicheskuyu partiyu, 4tobi viskazat' svoyu grajdanskuyu poziciyu, borotca za svoi prava grajdanina. mojet eti akcii i ne samiy verniy i rezul'tativniy podxod, no mojet eto to, 4to eti ludi mogut delat'? vidite drugoy put', mojete delat' inache - go ahead!

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Ya sluzhu Konstitutsiyu! Ura, tovarishi!
i said "stroki konstitucii RA, koli vi ee slujite." imeya vvedu, 4to vi slujite Respublike Armenii, kak i vse mi v kone4nom itoge.

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I v chem prichina Vashey neadekvatnoy reaktsii - ya ne sovsem ponimayu.
nesmotrya na moi golovokrujitel'nie chuvstva k vam, vrojdennoe chuvstvo spravedlivosti mne ne dozvolaet bit' neodekvatnoy ni k komu. no 4tob podderjat' vashu teoriyu o moey neodekvatnosti k vashey persone, otve4u: prichina - vesna!

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