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Old 14.07.2005, 14:16   #76
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Astvac chka nuyn patcharov vorov Dzmer Papi chka.
astvac ka, vortev 06 i motory mi hat raspredval uni, aveli lav himnavorum chi qan te qony?
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Религия же - штука плохая, уверен, что никогда не позволю себя добровольно ввергнуть в это. Религия - гениальное коммерческое, психологическое и даже военное изобретение человечества. Офигительная сила. Унесла жизней больше чем чума или ядерная бомба и продолжает.
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Gypsy, хочется Вас немного поправить. Вера и религия вещи все-таки разные, а Вы в основном напираете на понятие "верующий человек". Вера - это когда кто-то один верит во что-то, а про что-то другое верит, что этого нет. Вера подразумевает независимость, верю в то, то хочу. Религия - это когда кому-то говорят "верь в это, это и это, и не тебе решать". В вере нет ничего плохого (верить можно в бога, в любовь с первого взгляда, в демократические ценности, с Систему и т.п.).
Да нет, есть в слепой вере много плохого. Перечитайте мои посты, уже заколебался повторять.
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astvac ka, vortev 06 i motory mi hat raspredval uni, aveli lav himnavorum chi qan te qony?
Che, hech aveli lav@ chi.

Astvac = andz (vor@ mard chi, sakayn mardu nman mtacelu @ndunak a), gerbnakan uzherov, antesaneli, amenurek goyutyun unecogh

Bolor chors hatkutyunn el makur fantastika ya.

Inchov a Astvac gaghapar@ (standard gaghapar@) tarbervum urish horinvac personazhneric - hekiatayin gerbnakan uzherov, vor mard chen bayc andzik en, tesaneli kam voch kam erbemn tesaneli, voronk azdum en kianki yntacki vra?

Goyutyan arumov - voch mi banov. Nuyn Santa Klausi shat caxkacrac variantn a.

Es erkrord dzer arnocov patasxand a. Ches karum normal xosas hets - xndurm em mi xosa. Mius angam dzer arnelov patasxanecir - ancnum es ignore-i tak.
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Araji naxadasutyand imast@ indz hamar gaxtnik mnac.

"Heshtutyamb" bar@ der chi xaghum. Mard ete kara havata mi hekiati, kara havata naev urish hekiati. Parz chi?

Pis pis dzadzaner@ karan karavaren ko erexekin, ete du iranc sovoracnes vor ka astvac papi vorin petka aghotel u vor@ mez lik@ lavutyun a anum. Vagh@ iranc aveli vat mard ksrski inch vor vat mitk, et nuyn astvac papii anunic, u irank hangist kndunen. Odic chem asum es sagh, i miji ayloc.
1. axper jan, Gyps jan, du voch mi himnavorum chunes vor da heqiat a, cavd tanem ynduni ed, nujnpes vonc vor es himnavorum chunem vor inqy ka, stex harcy urish a vor es havatum em, isk du che...
2. indz ed havat eli em krknum 3-rd angam miayn u miayn ognel a, u indz voch voq molorutyan mej chi qcel, es vor asum em vor es havatum em, ytex voch astvacashunchn a der xaxacel voch xurany voch el mnacac surb grqery da MIAYN U MIAYN IMN A, voch qony voch Putininy voch el Hromi Papikiny, IMN A.
3. Du asum es vor qo CHAVATALN a qez harazat, es el asum em vor im HAVATALN a indz harazat u minchev ors el ognum a, ES qo pozician chem jxtum, XI ES DU UM POZICIAN JXTUM???
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1. axper jan, Gyps jan, du voch mi himnavorum chunes vor da heqiat a, cavd tanem ynduni ed, nujnpes vonc vor es himnavorum chunem vor inqy ka, stex harcy urish a vor es havatum em, isk du che...
Ay axper jan. Du es indz asum "es havatum em inch vor objecti". Es asum em karas himnavores - asum es che.

Pri chem tut es?
Karogha es pti nstem himnavorem amen inch inchvor goyutyun chuni? Et im gorc@ chi. Du es nor gaghapar nermucum, vori masin es (u mnacac racional mardik) fizikakan apacuyc chunem, dra hamar es pti kez asem apacuci.

Teche ko nuyn logikayov es kasem "goyutyun uni yot glxani trchun vor@ krak a shnchum, vor@ amen tegh ka, vor@ ameninch kara ani, vor@ steghcel a ashxar@ u mardkanc, vor@ dzu ya drel ugheghit mej, ev ailn...", du el henc ases "che" - kasem hekiatner es patmum. Ba eghav?

Haskanum es asacs incha? Shat mec tarberutyan ka - inch pti es himnavorem, u inch pti du himnavores. Du es xosum nor objectneric, du el pti himnavores vor glxicd ches horinel et nor objectner@.
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Che, hech aveli lav@ chi.

Astvac = andz (vor@ mard chi, sakayn mardu nman mtacelu @ndunak a), gerbnakan uzherov, antesaneli, amenurek goyutyun unecogh

Bolor chors hatkutyunn el makur fantastika ya.

Inchov a Astvac gaghapar@ (standard gaghapar@) tarbervum urish horinvac personazhneric - hekiatayin gerbnakan uzherov, vor mard chen bayc andzik en, tesaneli kam voch kam erbemn tesaneli, voronk azdum en kianki yntacki vra?

Goyutyan arumov - voch mi banov. Nuyn Santa Klausi shat caxkacrac variantn a.

Es erkrord dzer arnocov patasxand a. Ches karum normal xosas hets - xndurm em mi xosa. Mius angam dzer arnelov patasxanecir - ancnum es ignore-i tak.
eli qony araj es tanum....makur fantastika a....HIMNAVORI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tut popaxivaet demagogiej...ho menak aselov chi, enqan asem enqanic el shat...
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Ay axper jan. Du es indz asum "es havatum em inch vor objecti". Es asum em karas himnavores - asum es che.

Pri chem tut es?
Karogha es pti nstem himnavorem amen inch inchvor goyutyun chuni? Et im gorc@ chi. Du es nor gaghapar nermucum, vori masin es (u mnacac racional mardik) fizikakan apacuyc chunem, dra hamar es pti kez asem apacuci.

Teche ko nuyn logikayov es kasem "goyutyun uni yot glxani trchun vor@ krak a shnchum, vor@ amen tegh ka, vor@ ameninch kara ani, vor@ steghcel a ashxar@ u mardkanc, vor@ dzu ya drel ugheghit mej, ev ailn...", du el henc ases "che" - kasem hekiatner es patmum. Ba eghav?

Haskanum es asacs incha? Shat mec tarberutyan ka - inch pti es himnavorem, u inch pti du himnavores. Du es xosum nor objectneric, du el pti himnavores vor glxicd ches horinel et nor objectner@.
ha henc pti himnavores, vortev du kategorik jxtum es, ete mardy inch vor ban a asum, uremn PTI HIMNAVORI IRA ASACY, INCH KAP UNI JXTUM A TE CHE.

ES I TARBERUTYUN QEZ CHEM ASUM KA TE CHKA ES YNDAMNEY ASUM EM VOR HAVATUM EM, IM HAVATI HIMQERY SHAT AXOT ES QEZ ASECI, I NKATI UNENALOV EN VOR IM HAVATY ODIC CHEM VERCREL.
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2. indz ed havat eli em krknum 3-rd angam miayn u miayn ognel a, u indz voch voq molorutyan mej chi qcel, es vor asum em vor es havatum em, ytex voch astvacashunchn a der xaxacel voch xurany voch el mnacac surb grqery da MIAYN U MIAYN IMN A, voch qony voch Putininy voch el Hromi Papikiny, IMN A.
Shat izur es krknum, vortev kez ogut a tvel, millionavor mardkanc el vnas a tvel. U es ko havatin chem dem, vortev dazhe du chgites ko havat@ incha.

Es dem em kristonya ev ail hastatvac havati institutnerin u iranc karozac hekiatnerin. Voch ainkan parunakutyan hamar, ayl amboghj ideai hamar.

Isk voobshe - im inch gorc? Es eli em asum, im pndum@ tesakan a u ko het andzamb kap chuni.
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Ay axper jan. Du es indz asum "es havatum em inch vor objecti". Es asum em karas himnavores - asum es che.
himnavorem vor havatum em?
pashtonapes haytararum em, havatum em, indz tvum a edqany qez petq a vor bavarari
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Shat izur es krknum, vortev kez ogut a tvel, millionavor mardkanc el vnas a tvel. U es ko havatin chem dem, vortev dazhe du chgites ko havat@ incha.

Es dem em kristonya ev ail hastatvac havati institutnerin u iranc karozac hekiatnerin. Voch ainkan parunakutyan hamar, ayl amboghj ideai hamar.

Isk voobshe - im inch gorc? Es eli em asum, im pndum@ tesakan a u ko het andzamb kap chuni.
aspers, es voch millionavor mardkanc masin ei asum, voch el kristoneutyunn ei ardaracnum...es xosum ei im havati masin, vory I DEP, baci indzanic urish voch voqi het kap chuni...
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ha henc pti himnavores, vortev du kategorik jxtum es, ete mardy inch vor ban a asum, uremn PTI HIMNAVORI IRA ASACY, INCH KAP UNI JXTUM A TE CHE.

ES I TARBERUTYUN QEZ CHEM ASUM KA TE CHKA ES YNDAMNEY ASUM EM VOR HAVATUM EM, IM HAVATI HIMQERY SHAT AXOT ES QEZ ASECI, I NKATI UNENALOV EN VOR IM HAVATY ODIC CHEM VERCREL.
Es pokratarerov karum em kardam.

Es chpetka himnavorem ko horinac objectneri goyutyun chunenal@. Et enkan parz ban em asum, vor dazhe xndals galis a.

Hamel ushadir karda posters. Himnavorel em es im asacner@.
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Es pokratarerov karum em kardam.

Es chpetka himnavorem ko horinac objectneri goyutyun chunenal@. Et enkan parz ban em asum, vor dazhe xndals galis a.

Hamel ushadir karda posters. Himnavorel em es im asacner@.
urax em vor poqratarerov karoxanum es kardal.
im hotinac obyekti het du gorc chunes, ed im obyektn a

che du pti himnavores en vor asum es BOGA net, himnavori qo "BOGA NET" artahaytutyuny.

qo postery shat lav kardacel em, voch mi arjeq unecox himnavorum chka.
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eli qony araj es tanum....makur fantastika a....HIMNAVORI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tut popaxivaet demagogiej...ho menak aselov chi, enqan asem enqanic el shat...
Bobo, gorum es.

Lsi himnavorum em. Verji angam, hatuk ko hamar.

Astvac asac@, en vor astvacashnchi mech nkaragrvac a, fiktiv personazh a. Vonc vor Zevs@, Dzmer Papin, Gyulnaz Tatin. Iranc horinel en mardik.

Ete bnutyan mej goyutyun unen uzher voronc masin mardik teghyak chen, da chi nshanakum

1. vor et uzher@ "andz" en. da mardkanc hin, u makur hogebanoren hastatvac sxalneric a. anhaskanali erevuytner@ mardik heshtutyamb andznavorum en, sksac kare daric.

2. vor et uzher@ irok karavarum en mer kiank@. apacuyc chka. mi uzh vori voch goyutyan voch azdecutyan masin apacuyc chka - lriv fiktiv gaghapar a mnalu, minchev aydpisi apacuycner chlinen.

Es im himnavorumn a. Karam sharunakem der erkar, mi 5-6 punkt el berem, te inchi voch mi bari papik erknkum nstac chi. Ughaki gtnum em animast. Es voobshe chpetk a stegh vochinch himnavorem, chnayac vor himnavorum em.

Verji mi kani naxadasutyun@ ushadir karda. Nuyn harcerid ughaki chem patasxanelu.

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BoBon chi gorum, BoBon mecatarerov YNDGCUM a karevor barery
Es pas axpers, da chi nshanakum vor du himnavorecir, uxxaki qez het banavichely bard a
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Es pas axpers, da chi nshanakum vor du himnavorecir
@nker jan, et inch aselu ban er vor asir?

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