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Old 20.08.2002, 05:39   #1
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U menya poluchilas' ocheny trudnaya setuaciya.
Vobshem, moe drug zdelol ocheny grubuyu oshibku ,
no tokuyu chto ya mogu prostit` o moy drugoy drug
atkazavaetsya ego prostit` i nastoevaet na tom chtob ya porval snim otnosheniya oto on porvyot somnoy. Teber` u menya takoy vopros chto delat` vedy` ya nexochu ne kogo teryat`. I ne znayu chto zdelat`. Chto vi posovetovite mne zdelat` mne osobino vajno znat` mneniya Virusa,Emesiza i Dark_Angela.
Druzey trudno naxodit` no ochen` lexko teryat` eti dva moix druhga v forume esli oni xotyat pust` nazavut svoi imena.
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Old 20.08.2002, 08:55   #2
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Originally posted by Onyx:
U menya poluchilas' ocheny trudnaya setuaciya.
Vobshem, moe drug zdelol ocheny grubuyu oshibku ,
no tokuyu chto ya mogu prostit` o moy drugoy drug
atkazavaetsya ego prostit` i nastoevaet na tom chtob ya porval snim otnosheniya oto on porvyot somnoy. Teber` u menya takoy vopros chto delat` vedy` ya nexochu ne kogo teryat`. I ne znayu chto zdelat`. Chto vi posovetovite mne zdelat` mne osobino vajno znat` mneniya Virusa,Emesiza i Dark_Angela.
Druzey trudno naxodit` no ochen` lexko teryat` eti dva moix druhga v forume esli oni xotyat pust` nazavut svoi imena.
сори не отношусь к ни одному из этих ников но скажу!!! ты должен быть с друзьями другом Ж-) но что это значит
не хочет друг2 дружить с другом1 это его проблемма но как бы говорить мол выбирай никто не имеет права! если он сможет доказать что тебе необходимо с ним не обаться далее то да и если это ты вопримешь но если ты простил то уже все!! значит ты выше друга номер2 и можешь пращатьс людей!
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Old 20.08.2002, 12:08   #3
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Vtom dela chto on ni kak ne xochet eto ponyat` chto kajdie chelovek mojet ochibitsya....
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mne ne kajetsa chto tebe stoit otkazivatsa ot druga kotori sdelal oshibku.. prosto nado sest' vtroem pogovorit' i vse!..esli je posle etogo vtoroi drug opyat' je ne soglasitsa prostit' pervogo druga.. to ti skaji emu "esli ti ne xochesh obhsatsa s etim drugom, to ne obshaysa, no ya sam ne sobirayus' teryat' otnosheniya..ved' ti toje sovershal oshibki v jizni. i eshe neraz sovershish.." dumayu posle etogo xot' kak to proyasnitsa
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Old 23.08.2002, 15:35   #5
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2 Onyx
Esli tvoy 2-oy drug ne xochet vsyo taki proshat' pervomu , ty doljen re****' s kem tebe xochetsya bit' (drogovo vixoda net), i voobshe vse delayut oshibki i esli on drug on doljen umet' proshat' druzya je dlya tavo chto bi pomoch' v nujniy moment .......
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Znaesh', chto mne pokazalos' kogda ya prochla to, chto ti napisal??? Mne pokazalos', chto tot tvoy drug, kotoriy tebe govorit, chto tebe ne stoit bol'she obshyatsya s tem drugom, na samom dele prosto naprosto tebya shantajiruet!!!!! Ved' posudi sam, stal bi nastoyashiy drug idti na takoe, znaya tvoe mnenie, znaya to, chto tebe bol'no iz-za sozdavsheysya situacii? A mojet eto emu na ruku? Mojet on takim obrazom xochet izbavitsya ot togo tvoego druga i zanyat' edinstvennoe i nepovtorimoe mesto v spiske tvoix druzey i znakomix? Ya ne znayu samoy situacii, ne znayu chto tebe sdelal tot tvoy drug, no edinstvennoe, chto ya tebe mogu posovetovat', eto podumat' xoroshen'ko o tom: stoit li tebe doveryat' etomu parnyu ili net?

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Old 07.09.2002, 01:21   #7
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Drug, kotoriy stavit podobnie ul`timatumi - uzhe ne Drug.
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Old 07.09.2002, 05:59   #8
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Obicho pishu korotko, no na etot raz nepoluchitsya.
Xot`ya ya ne v chisle tex, ch`yo mnenie dlya tebya osobenno vajno, ne smog ostat`sya ravnodushnim. Tot, kto doet sovet, v kakoy to mere beret na sebya otvetstvennost`, uchitivaya. chto chelovek sklonen cenit` tot shag, kotoriy on ne sdelal (poskol`ku nevidel ego otricatel`nie posledstviya) i nedoocenivat` sdelanniy shag (poskol`ku videl ego otricatel`nie posledstviya), a polajitel`nie - nesklonen vesti v shchet.
Vot pochemu govoryat, chto davat` soveti - neblogadarnoe delo.
V dannom voprose slishkom malo informaciy, i po etomu ya vmesto "ribi", predlogayu "udochku", kotorim ya pol`zuyus`, pri confliktnix otnosheniyax mejdu druz`yami: 1- ochen` vajno pravl`no oprdelit` prichinu oshibki (nedorozumenie, nevnimatel`nost`, bestaktnost`, nevnimatel`nost` k drugu,..., egoizm i lichnaya korist`). V dvux poslednix sluchiyax - mojno neproschat`. 2-doljen vspomnit`, kto kakim drugom bil dlya tebya do konflikta. 3-poprobuy postavit` sebya v mesto togo kto, neproshchaet ireal`no ocenivay stepen` ego pravoti. 4-(eto samoe vajnoe) naskol`ko iskreno osoznal svoyu oshibku perviy (mnogie osoznayut oshibku lish togda, kogda ona obnarugivayetsya). 5-kto iz nix chesnee drujil s drugimi dzuz`jami (obichno tak bolee ob`ektivno mojno ocenit` druzey). Odnim slovom u kogo bol`she chelovecheskix kachestv, togo iviberay. Luchshe vsego so vremenem postaraysya postepenno i okkuratno smerit` ix, esli smojesh i terpi, esli oni obe obijut tebya, tak-kak vsyo xoroshee stoit dorogo. Udachi!

PS: Ya v forume, po postingam uznal forumcev, obladayuschimi bol`shimi obshechelovecheskimi kachestvami.
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Old 07.09.2002, 06:20   #9
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Program GRUG;
Var
Ya:integer;
Drug1,Drug2:real;
Begin
If (Ya+Drug1) < 0
then Ya:=Ya+Drug2;
else
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TO PRIMAVERA:
Tak-tak, pregde chem goryachitsya, ti dala sebe odin edinstvenniy vopros-CHTO SDELAL DRUG, oshibku kotorogo ne moget prostit Vtoroy drug(kotoriy, kstaci, bil toge ochen blizok s 1-im), vo vtorix, esli eto DRUG, kak on moget shantagirovat svoego druga, ved Drugba eto ge visshaya forma otnosheniya(ne chitaya, konechno gomikov i vsyakix tam izvrashencev), esli schitaesh cheloveka DRUGOM, to dolgen osoznat, chto dolgen idti s nim do konca, prichom zdes shantag ili chto-to drugoe???... I dage Esli b Drug1 imel svoi lichnie scheta s drugom2, oni bi reshili eto samostoyatelno, ne dostaviv boli obshemu drugu!!! Tak chto tvoi Mishleniya sovershenno nepravilni
Tak,
TO W_z_rd
Ti toge ne zadal sebe vopros, a chto SDelal drug1??? Moget, drug 2 skazal eto dlya ego ge blaga??? Ti podumal ob etom, pregde chem pisat, chto takoy drug-ne drug!!!
Ostalnoe posle vashix kommentariy!
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Originally posted by DARK_ANGEL:
TO W_z_rd
Ti toge ne zadal sebe vopros, a chto SDelal drug1??? Moget, drug 2 skazal eto dlya ego ge blaga??? Ti podumal ob etom, pregde chem pisat, chto takoy drug-ne drug!!!
Ostalnoe posle vashix kommentariy!
Proshu zapomit` na budushee: ya ne podumav ne viskazivayus`.
Drug#2 dlya ego blaga dolzhen byl ob'yasnit` svoemu drugu, pochemu on ne xochet, chtobi tot obshalsya s drugom#1. Esli zhe on polagaet, chto ob'yasnit` emu nevozmozhno, to eto ne druzhba a opeka ili lidirovanie. Drugoe delo, esli by Onyx ne znal prichini ssory, a drug#1 iz kakix-to soobrazheniy ne mog ee raskrit`. No Onyx znaet prichini ssori i sam v sostoyanii sdelat` vivodi.
V obshem, ya ne opravdivayu deystviya druga#2 kakimi by motivami on ni rukovodstvovalsya.

Onyx, poxval`no, chto ti mozhesh proshat`. Eto ono iz samix trudnix veshey v mire, i odna iz samix vazhnix dlya cheloveka. Nadeyus`, tvoy drug tozhe kogda-to eto poymet.
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Tut pochti vse govoryat chto vtoroi drug ne drug. Privedu primer na sebe, esli b@ kto libo iz moix druzei sdelel b@ chto libo protiv moei sem'i daje ne podozrevaya ob etom, to plevat' Ya xotel na takogo druga i na vsex tex kto posle etogo ostanetsa ego drugom, Xotya ob etom b@ ne afishroval i ne govoril b@.
Dlya menya eto obyasnyaetsa ochn' prosto, Sem'ya eto samoe svyatoe chto est' v moei jizni, i ya katokom proidus' po vsem i vsya chto stoit pered sem'ei.

A esli nujen [email protected] primer privedu: esli tvoi "drug" perespal s tvoei jenoi a vtoroi "drug" govorit chto on emu vse esche drug to
Ya mogu prinesti esche mnogo primerov, Kogda ne nujno proshchat' nikogo
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Originally posted by SNOOP-DOGG:

A esli nujen [email protected] primer privedu: esli tvoi "drug" perespal s tvoei jenoi a vtoroi "drug" govorit chto on emu vse esche drug to
Ya mogu prinesti esche mnogo primerov, Kogda ne nujno proshchat' nikogo
Esli chelovek tak postupaet s kem to, to ne otnositsya k nemu kak k Drugu..
I esli tot drugoy reshil vsyotaki prodoljat' s nim drujbu, to eto ego vibor. U tret'ego toje est' vibor i on volen postupat' tak, kak schitaet pravil'nim.
A voobshe bit' Nastoyashim drugom ochen' trudno..
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Old 08.09.2002, 03:43   #14
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To Dark_angel

Ya ne schitayu sebya oshibsheysya, potomu chto esli bi ya bila na meste podrugi 2, to ya bi ne stala tak uporni nasedat' na nervi svoey podrugi, vidya ee i bez togo tyajeloe polojenie.
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2 Primavera:
Ti ne ochen-to razbiraeshsya v Psixologii parney, po-moemu, ved megdu devichey i malchishey drugboy est ochen mnogo otlichii!!!(Tak chto ne smotri na eto, kak esli b eto bila tvoya podruga, u nas mnogoe ne tak, kak u vas...)
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