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Old 15.11.2003, 06:32   #1
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Default Pritchi iz knigi "Taro transformacii"

Pritchi uzhe byli v Lit.ugolke, no eti mne zakhotelos` pomestit` syuda.

KNiga Osho "Taro transformacii" soderzhit 60 kitayskikh, yaponskikh, khristinaskikh, sufiyskikh pritch. Oni prednaznacheny dlya gadaniya na kartakh, v obschem.

Zadumyvaesh` vopros, dostaesh` kartu , chitaesh` pritchu i meditiruesh` nad otvetom . Kstati, knigu mozhno ispol`ozvat` i ne dlya gadaniy, tak kak pritchi sami ochen` mudrye i krasivye, i prosto chitaya podryad, poluchaesh` ogromnoe udovol`stvie i povod porazmyslit`.
Vot para shtuk, kotorye mne ponravilis`

Eto karta, kotoraya nazyvaetsya "Znachimost`".
Vot ee znachenie, i dalee - pritcha.

"Ne bespokoytes` slishkom o prakticheskoy storone dela. Vy prishli v zhizn` ne v kachestve tovara, a chto by stanovitsya vse bolee zhiznennym bolee razumnym i schastlivym - ekstatichno schastlivym"

A vot pritcha:

Lao-Tzi puteshestvoval so svoimi uchenikami. Odnazhdy oni prokhodili mimo lesa, gde drovoseki rubili derev`ya. Oni srubili ves` les, krome odnogo bol`shogo dereva s raskidistymi vetvyami. Ono bylo takoe bol`shoe, chto v ego teni moglo by otdoknhut` mnozhestvo lyudey. Lao-Tzi poslal svoikh uchenikov, chtob te sprosili drovosekov, pochemu oni ostavili odno-edinstvennoe derevo.

Drovoseki otvetili : Eto derevo sovershenno bespolezno. Iz nego ne vyjdet ni stolbov, ni mebeli, Ono dazhe ne goditsya na toplivo, tak kak ego dym opasen dlja glaz.

Ucheniki vernulis` i rasskazali eto Lao-Tzi. On rassmeyalsya i otvetil:
BUdte i vy kak eto derevo, i nikto ne prichinit vam vreda. Esli vy polezny - vas srubyat i vy prevratites `v mebel`. Esli vy krasivy, vas prodadut na rynke. Budte kak eto drevo, togda vy smozhete vyrasti ogromnym i moguchim, i tysachi lyudey naydut priyut v vashey teni"

Dalee - kommentariy Osho:
"Lao-Tzi nepraktichen s nashej tochki zreniya. Odnako, esli vy poymete ego, to uvidite, chto prakticnost` lezhit` gorazdo glubzhe, ibo zhizn` - etyo naslazhdenie i prazdnovanie. Ona ne dozlhna prevraschat`sya vo chto-to praktichnoe i udobnoe. Zhizn`bol`she pokhozha na poeziyu, chem na tovar na vitrine magazina.
Esli zakhotite slyt` umnikom, to vas nesomnenno ispolzuyut, potomu chto obschestvo ne ostavit nuzhnogo cheloveka v pokoe. Esli zhe khotite stat` poeziey, ekstazom, pesney, zabudte o poleznosti. Ostavajtes`, istinnymi, vernymi sebe.
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K pritche ochen` podxodit izrechenie Burneta:
"In this life, like in Olympic Games, there are three types of people. The lowest class is made of those who came to buy and sell. Next above them are those who came to compete. And the best of all are those who came simply to watch."
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/*offtop hat on*/
dwa sapoga - para ;))))
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a eta knizhka est' w e-variante ? nu , kakim nit' tam ebookom :)
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nm - nu, voobsche-to, v vide ebokov ja etu knigu ne vtrechala .

No tot usatyj prodavec knig na vernisazhe obeschal mne takuyu privezti v yanvare ( vmeste s kartami). Eta kniga-to ne moya.
No ya na dnyakh esche postnu paru pritch
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ne w temu, no mozhet zainteresuet :)

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kstati wstrechnyj wopros - a Awesta w elektronnom wide wstrechalas'? a to dorogowatoe udowol'stwie ee pokupat' ....
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K pritche ochen` podxodit izrechenie Burneta:
"In this life, like in Olympic Games, there are three types of people. The lowest class is made of those who came to buy and sell. Next above them are those who came to compete. And the best of all are those who came simply to watch."
Это напоминает деление на касты в индуизме.
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A vot esche odna khoroshaya karta - "Energiya". Znachenie karty:

"Energiyu nado raskhodovat` na chto-to - risovanie, penie, igru na gitarwe. Inache iz tvorcheskoy ona prevratitsya v razru****el`nuyu, v zlobu iil gnev".

A vot Buddiyskaya pritcha k etoy karte.

Davnym-davno v Indii zhil` strashny ubiyca po imeni Angulimala. On poklyalsya ubit` 1000 chelovek, i sdelat` iz ikh pal`cev ozerel`e. I vse eto iz-za togo, chto, kak on polagal, obschestvo zhestoko s nim oboshlos`. On uzhe ubil 999 chelovek, i poslednego ubit` nikak ne udavalos`, t.k lyudi storonilis` tekh mest` , gde on zhil.

No odnazhdy k tem mestam priblizilsya BUdda. Ego pyatlis ostanovit`, no on otvetil - Vse ravno ya kogda-nibud` umru. Tak pust` ya khot` umru, posluzhiv ispolneniyu che`ey-to mechty. Ioi zhe napotiv, ya ego izmenyu.

Tak BUdda priblizlsya k tem mestam, gde zhil Angulimala. A ubiyca uvidel, chto k nemu bez teni strakha priblizhaetsya krasivyj i gracioznyj chelovek. On ochen` udivilsya, no vse-taki skhvatil v ruki mech i zakrichal - Ne priblizhaysya ko mne! Ty znaesh`, kto ya?
Na chto Budda otvetil - A ty sam znaesh`, kto ty?

Angulimala vozmutilsya - U menya net vremeni obsuzhdat` podobnye materii! Esli ty podoydesh` blizko, ya seychas ZHe ub`yu tebya!

Na chto BUdda otvetil : Ya tak ili inache kogda-nibud` umru, no luchshe umeret`, posluzhiv` ispolneniyu ch'ey-to mechty. Tak chto, mozhesh` menya ubit`. No proshu tebya, ispolni tol`ko odno moe predsmertnoe zhelanie - srubi dly menya tu cvetuschuyu vetku i day mne naposledok polyubovat`sya na ee cvetki.

Angulimala srubil vetku i otdal Budde. Budda vzyal ee, a zatem skazal - A teper` sdeay tak, chtob ona prisrosla opbratno.
Prestupnik voskliknul: V svoem li ty ume? Razve ya mogu eto sdelat????

BUdda otvetil - esli zhe ty ne mozhesh` sozdavat`, to kakoe zhe ty imeesh` pravo razrushat`?

Tut na Angulimalu snizozhlo prosvetlenie. Soznanie ego izmenilos` v schitanye sekundy. On srazu ponyal, chto pered nim - velikiy uchitel`. On brosil mech , pal k nogma BUddy i poprosil posvyatit` ego v san`yasu. Tut prishli drugiwe lyudi i skazali velikomu Uchitelyu - kak zhe ty budesh` ego posvyaschat`, on zhe zlodey i ubiyca!

Na chto Budda otvetil:Vy ne pravy. Etot chelovek nastol`ko silen, chto mog v odinochku protivostoyat` obschestvu. Prosto ran`she on byl vooruzhen mechom, a teper` - znaniem.
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Krasivaya pritcha.
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Знание-сила
Капица-старший обожал повторять своим новоиспеченным кандидатам и аспирантам, которые приходили к нему работать: Знание - сила. А потом добавлял - А сила есть - ума не надо ...


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A vot esche odna pritcha ottuda zhe. Karta nazyvaetsya "Bespokoystvo". O tom, chto my vsyu zhin` iz-za chego-to psikhuem ran`she vremeni.... A konec siravno odin

Odna straushka ekhala v avtobuse, i ochen` vtsrevozheno govorila voditelyu : POzhaluysta, napomnite mne, kogda budet moya ostanovka! ya ochen` boyus` ee propustit`! Voditel` otvetil - ne volnuytes`, konduktor vas predupredit! Sadites` i otdykhayte, vam esche dolgo ekhat`! Starushka ne unimalas`, i podoshla k konduktoru - pozhaluysta, ne zabud`te mne napomnit, kogda budet moya ostanovka! KOnduktor otvetil - ne volnuytes`! Vy tol`ko skazhite, kogda vam nuzhno soyti!

I drozha ot volneniya starukha otvetila - Zapomnite, mne nuzhno soyti NA KONECHNOY ostanovke!
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