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Old Sep 16, 2002, 14:21   #1
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Post Y Ljubvi malo shansov

Eto zitata iz knigi Elvina Tofflera "Shok bydyshego"

...Ortodoksal'nii plan jizni predpologaet, chto dvoe molodix ljudei "naidut" drug druga i pojenjatsja. Predpologaetsja, chto kagdii bydet ydovletvorjat' psixologicheskie potrebnosti partnera i eti dve lichnosti bydyt dolgie godi razvivatsja - bolee ili menee v tandeme, prodoljaja sootvetstvovat' drug drugy. Dalee predpologaetsja, chto eto prodlitsja ,"poka smert' ne razluchit".
Dlja mnogix ljudei poiski ljubvi v semeinoi jizni fakticheski stali syt'jy i smislom jizni.
Nado zametit', chto ljubov' opredeljajut v ypomjanytix yje ponjatijax sovmestnogo rosta. Ona ponimaetsja kak ocharovatel'naja smes' iz dopolnitel'nix potrebnostei, peretekajyshix ot odnogo partnera k drugomy, perepolnjajyshix oboix, sozdajyshix oshushenie tepla, dobroti i predannosti. Neschastlivie mygja chasto jalujutsja, chto "jena otstala" - v sozial'nom, obrazovatel'nom ili intellektyal'nom roste. O partnerax v ydachnix brakax govorjat, chto oni "rastyt vmeste".
Teorija "parallel'nogo razvitija" ljubvi pol'zyetsja podderjkoi konsul'tantov po voprosam sem'i, psixologov i soziologov. Kachestvo otnoshenii mejdy myjemi jenoi zavisit ot yrovnja ix sootvetstvija v dannoi faze ix individual'nogo, no sopostavimogo razvitija".
Esli ljubov' est' proizvodnoe ot sovmestnogo razvitija syprugov i nam sledyet opredeljat' yspeshnost' braka po yrovnjy i vzainmnomy sootvetstvijy etogo razvitija, to mojno dat' re****el'nie i zloveshie predskazanija na bydyshee.
Mojno pokazat', chto daje v sravnitel'no zastoinom obshestve matematicheskaja verojatnost' re****el'no ne v pol'zy pari, stremjasheisja k idealy parallel'nogo razvitija. Odnako ee shansi na yspex padajyt eshe nije , esli vozrastaet temp izmenenii v obshestve (chto seichas i proisxodit). V bistro razvivajyshemsja soziume, gde mnogoe izmenjaetsja, prichem ne odnorazovo, a postojanno: gde myg'ja prodvigajytsja vverx i vniz v razlichnix ekonomicheskix i sozial'nix izmerenijax; gde sem'i vnov' i vnov' menjajyt svoi doma i okrujenie; gde ljudi vsjo dal'she otxodjat ot svoix roditelei, svoix iskonnix religii, svoix tradizionnix zennostei, - v takom soziyme bydet pochti chto chydom, esli dvoim ydastsja razvivatsja xotja bi otnositel'no na ravnix.
Esli srednjaja prodoljitel'nost' jizni vozrastaet, skajem, s 50 do 70 let, a potomy yvelichicvaetsja vremja, kogda nado prodelivat' akrobaticheskie trjuki s parallel'nim razvitiem, to shansi na yspex prakticheski padajyt do nulja. Ojidaja togo, chto v novix yslovijax brak bydet dlit'sja do bskonechnosti, vi xotite slishkom mnogogo. Jelaja, chtobi do beskonechnosti dlilas' ljubov, mi bydem xotet' eshe bol'shego, no temp jizni i novazii- protiv etogo.


Eto skoree otnositsja k soziologii, chem k psixologii, no poskol'ky takoi kategorii net, ja reshila zapxat' eto sjyda.
Dumajy, chto tema aktual'naja, i mnogix iz vas interesyjyt voprosi svjazannie s brakom, semeinoi jizn'jy, izmene...
Interesno, chto skajete...
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Old Sep 16, 2002, 16:31   #2
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У китайцев (если не путаю ечго) есть проклятие такое: "чтоб ты жил в Эпоху Перемен"..

а шансы - чушь.

везет достойным


а достойными становятся
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Nu da, mir stremitel`no kuda-to katitsya, kda - ne znaem. Vprochem, tak bylo vsegda.
Ya vse prochital. Naskol`ko ya ponyal, ideya v tom, chto v nashem stremitel`no menyayushemsya mire brak/lyubov` uzhe ne ne mogut but` takimi permanentnymi ponyatiyami, kak ran`she ?
Ya ne soglasen s etim. MOzhno zhit`, mozhno razvivat`sya - brak etomu ne meshaet. A lyubov`... ob etom voobshe slozhno chto-to govorit`.
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Nenaviju dlinnie topiki, no eto escho nichego, a to bivayut takie, xochetsa klaviaturu otnyat'.
Edinstvennoe, chto ne polenyus' otvetit' eto, to chto jena (jenshina) zavedomo otstaet (doljna otstavat') ot muja (mujchini) v duxovnom i intellektual'nom razvitii, i chasto posledniy tak rvetsa k jenit'be, chtobi offizial'no obzavestis toy, kotoraya budet otstavat' ot nego
"poka smert' ne razluchit".
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To Egoist:
SHUSH.
Vse moi myg'ja nachinajyt otstavat' ot menja v razvitii na tretii mesjaz "sovmestnogo razvitija"
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Quote:
Originally posted by egoist:
Nenaviju dlinnie topiki, no eto escho nichego, a to bivayut takie, xochetsa klaviaturu otnyat'.
Edinstvennoe, chto ne polenyus' otvetit' eto, to chto jena (jenshina) zavedomo otstaet (doljna otstavat') ot muja (mujchini) v duxovnom i intellektual'nom razvitii, i chasto posledniy tak rvetsa k jenit'be, chtobi offizial'no obzavestis toy, kotoraya budet otstavat' ot nego
"poka smert' ne razluchit".
Nuuu...Chush' zavedomaja...
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Это у влюбленных мало шансов,
а у любви - бесконечность !
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Quote:
Originally posted by egoist:
Nenaviju dlinnie topiki, no eto escho nichego, a to bivayut takie, xochetsa klaviaturu otnyat'.
Edinstvennoe, chto ne polenyus' otvetit' eto, to chto jena (jenshina) zavedomo otstaet (doljna otstavat') ot muja (mujchini) v duxovnom i intellektual'nom razvitii, i chasto posledniy tak rvetsa k jenit'be, chtobi offizial'no obzavestis toy, kotoraya budet otstavat' ot nego
"poka smert' ne razluchit".
Xa-Xa-Xa,и поэтому всегда "заведомо отсталая" жена толкает своего мужа вперед.
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