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Old 23.02.2005, 14:39   #1
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Narod, ya tol'ko-chto prochol chto :
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Frozen Sea of Water Discovered on Mars

The European Space Agency's Mars Express spacecraft has uncovered evidence for a massive sea of water ice in warm conditions near Martian equator. Since temperatures in this region can rise above freezing, it could be a good location to look for life. The frozen sea measures 800 x 900 km across (497 x 559 miles), varies up to 45 metres (150 feet) deep. Previous observations by Mars Express of methane levels do match up to this newly discovered ice, so it builds on the theory that there could be microbial life living underneath Mars' freeze dried and irradiated surface.

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Old 24.02.2005, 04:35   #2
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Great NEWS!
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Default New organism raises Mars questions

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science...eut/index.html

Wednesday, February 23, 2005 Posted: 11:17 PM EST (0417 GMT)

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- A U.S. scientist claims to have thawed out a new life form, which he said raises questions about possible contemporary life on Mars.



This NASA file image obtained June 2003 shows blue colors indicating water ice as observed by NASA's Mars Odyssey spacecraft.

The life form -- a bacterium dubbed Carnobacterium pleistocenium -- probably flourished in the Pleistocene Age, along with woolly mammoths and saber-tooth tigers, said Hoover.

He discovered the bacterium near the town of Fox, Alaska, in a tunnel drilled through permafrost -- a mix of permanently frozen ice, soil and rock -- that is kept at a constant temperature of 24.8 degrees Fahrenheit (minus 4 degrees Celcius).

"When they cut into the Fox tunnel, they actually cut through Pleistocene ice wedges, which are similar to structures that we see on Mars," Hoover said in a telephone interview.

The ice wedges contained a golden-brown layer about a half-yard (half-meter) thick, and this layer contained a group of microscopic brownish bacteria, Hoover said.

When he looked at a small sample of this bacteria-laden ice under a microscope, Hoover said, "These bacteria that had just thawed out of the ice ... were swimming around. The instant the ice melted, they started swimming. They were alive ... but they had been frozen for over 30,000 years."

This discovery, coupled with research released this week by the European Space Agency, makes it more likely that life could be found on Mars, Hoover said.

Scientists have focused on Mars as the most likely spot in our solar system for Earth-like life, but none has so far been confirmed.

What has been found is ample evidence that water once flowed on this currently cold and frost-locked planet.

This is significant because liquid water -- not ice -- has been seen as a prerequisite for life as it is known on Earth.

Images made by the European Mars Express space probe indicate a giant frozen sea near the Martian equator, the first time scientists have detected evidence of ice beyond Mars' polar caps.

This vast sea is covered by a layer of dust, which might be heated by the sun and could conduct heat down to create sub-surface layers of water from time to time, Hoover said.

"Those layers would be ideal regions for microbiological activity and so that means that the presence of this frozen sea, if that turns out to be precisely what's going on, it greatly enhances the possibility that there may be life existing on Mars today," he said.

The discovery of the living bacteria in Alaska's permafrost raises another possibility, Hoover said.

"The other thing that's exciting: Just like we found in the Fox tunnel of Alaska, frozen biology in the form of unicellular bacteria might even have remained alive, frozen in the Martian sea," he said.

Hoover found the bacterium in 2000, but it took five years to confirm that it was in fact a new form of life.

The finding was published in January in the International Journal of Systematic and Evolutionary Microbiology, the official journal of record for such matters.
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Прорыв в теории эволюции материи!
Имперский флот подлетает к солнечной системе.
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А еще там зайца нашли

http://news.pravda.ru/science/2004/03/11/61122.html
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Joshua12, etu novost' oni pochti-chto vzyali ot togo istochnika chto ya prevyol. No konechno eto ne vajno. Vajno to chto est' tam chto-to wodoobraznoe i eto uje interesno.
Sam fakt naxojdeniya vodi govorit o tom chto v nashei Solnechnoi Sisteme est' mesta gde jizn' mojet suschestvovat' krome nashei rodnoi Zemli.

Naschot zaichikov na Marse, ochen' zabavno Spasibo za link, interesno prochitat' na chto pressa reagiruet. Iz fotografii mne pokozalos' chto eto chast' obshivki. No pojevyom i uvidem.

Chto vsyo eto mojet prinesti? Ponyatno chto NASA i drugie poluchat escho mnogo deneg na proekti chtob popast' na Mars. Budet interesno i zabavno, no ya dumayu chto v blijaishem buduschem ne budet u nas Marsianskaja kaloniya. Dlya etogo poka escho nado mnogo kopat'.
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Skoro nashi priletyat... i osvobodyat nas s etoy duratskoy plnety...
Mar budet forpostom ekspansii chelovecheskogo roda vo vselennoy.
Mozhno uzhe Hub na marse postroit ryadom s etim mestom.

A materiali "sxozi" potomu chto NASA dayet vsego-lish odin brifing. No v CNN variante estx ochen interesniye nyuansi...
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mda, chestno govorya ya bi ne poshol tuda jit' daje esli tam naidut celi okean. Mne kajetca chto sperva nado ispol'zovat' Lunu kak bazu, osvoit' potom mojno dal'she. A to is sluni budet gorazdo legche kudato letet' ... no ob etom mi uje govorili u nas v Forume.
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mne vot chto interesno tovaishi: gde seichas voyager naxodistsya? on tipa doljen bil kakoe to pole chastic pereletet' cherez kotoroe radiosignali ne proxodyat.... daleko za orbitoi Plutona....

da, i pravda li chto u nego na bortu est' adres nashei lubimoi zemli?

i esli da, to kogda priletyat zlie inoplanetysane nas kushat'?
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Ну до облака Оорта ему по моему далеко. А на пластине закреплённой на его корпусе - местоположение Земли по карте пульсаров.
Так что готовьтесь... пойдём на закусь под маринадом.
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Собсна


Слева внизу вроде.
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mne vot chto interesno tovaishi: gde seichas voyager naxodistsya? on tipa doljen bil kakoe to pole chastic pereletet' cherez kotoroe radiosignali ne proxodyat.... daleko za orbitoi Plutona....

da, i pravda li chto u nego na bortu est' adres nashei lubimoi zemli?

i esli da, to kogda priletyat zlie inoplanetysane nas kushat'?
Sovsem malen'koe proyasnenie, radiosignali proxodyat cherez mnogoe. Mi poluchaem radiosignali ot dalyokix galaktik. Vsyo zavisit ot moshnosti signala ili ot chuvstvitel'nosti priyomnika (radioteleskopa).

Poka mi poluchaem signali ot voyager -ov, est' lyudi kotorie pishut stat' naschot kak obrabativat' eti samie signali. Est' raboti v kotorix lyudi daje utverjdayut chto za predelami etic 9 planet prostranstvo imeet nekotorie neodnorodnosti. I eto vsyo oni meryat s pomoschyu signalov ot voyager-ov.

A kto tebe skazal chto "oni" uje ne zdes' i ne kushayut nas?
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te kotorie zdes' i kushayut nas, vovse ne inoplanetyane.
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информация не проверенная !

Я гдето слышал что на марсе была атмосфера но нету магнитного поля,
в итоге, в результате мощнейшей солнечной вспышки она была "сдута".
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nu da. vmeste s nosorogami kotorie tam vodilis' v izobilii.
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