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Old Apr 19, 2003, 11:28   #1
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B2C texnologii

Kto mojet pomoch razabratsa v B2C texnologiyax s pomoshju PHP ????
Ili dayte link , gde podrobno napisano o programmirovanii B2C c PHP.

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Old Apr 19, 2003, 16:25   #2
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Davit, esli ya ne oshibayus - B2C eto skoree biznes termin chem web programming. Mojete nemnogo detalizirovat, kakoi konkretno aspect B2C vas interesuet: kak sozdavat' b2C saiti s PHP, kak vnedryat' shopping cart ili payment v PHP saiti, kakie B2C solutions sushestvuyut na rinke, ili chto-to drugoe?

Kstati, eto vas chisto teoreticheski interesuet, ili v Armenii est' B2C saiti (ya imeyu v vidu rabotayushie i konkretno chto-to prodayushie, a ne prosto design-konfetki)? Esli takovie est', budu priznatelen za linki.
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Old Apr 20, 2003, 11:36   #3
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vabshe to , konkretno mne interesovali Shopping Cart i.
No kogda ya sdelal etot post ya vabshe ne znal -shto takoe B2C.
Teper u menya vsyo pod rukoy , i problem net

A shto kasaetsa B2C v Armenii , to ya toje ne znayu takix site-ov i vabshe net smisla v Armenii sdelat shto to takoe !

u menya pod rukoy sejchas takoy Project, no ne dlya Armenii
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Old Apr 26, 2003, 17:52   #4
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B]Esli takovie est', budu priznatelen za linki.[/b]

vobshem uznal ob odnom takom , i vot link
www.webshop.am

daje ponravilsya ...
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2 Davit re: www.webshop.am :

Spasibo Davit, no ya tut posmotrel etot sait. Shopping cart ne rabotaet, check out voobshe ne sushestvuet (pokhoje, ispol'zovalas third party shopping cart, no potom bila snyata ). Tak chto eto takoi je B2C kak nashi nezabvennoi pamyati sovetskie magazini - v vitrine vsego polno, a kupit' nelzya.. Odnim dizainom sit ne budesh'..

Dlya takikh magazinov est drugoi technicheskii termin: nae-business.
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vabshet ya by ne skazal shto Shopping cart ne sushestvuet ...
tam daje payment sushestvuet s pomoshju credit carda ...

konechno ya nichevo ne kupil (ne znaju rabotaet ili net) , no kajetsa doljen rabotat`
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vabshet ya by ne skazal shto Shopping cart ne sushestvuet ...
tam daje payment sushestvuet s pomoshju credit carda ...

konechno ya nichevo ne kupil (ne znaju rabotaet ili net) , no kajetsa doljen rabotat`
Вчера шоппинг карт не работал. Обычно на том мое общение с шопами заканчивается, но Ваш коммент подвиг меня дать вебшопу еще один шанс - тем более если ето оказался бы работающий магазин, ето было бы приятным сюрпризом.

Увы.. Вообразив себя измученным тоской по Родине и алкоголю неисправимым патриотом, я решил купить коньяк Ахтамар. Шоппинг карта (кстати я оказался прав, ето third party shopping cart ot 2checkout.com - stoit $98 ustanowka) на етот раз работала, но никаких SSL я не заметил, поетому дисклозить кредитку естественно не стал... Вообще-то с секюрити там ситуация абсолютно не продумана, так что ни один покупатель не станет давать кредитку на такой сайт. Тем более в Армении, где дебиток не более 5000 на страну (кредитки у нас по моему еще не ввели)...

То есть, возвращаясь к нашему разговору - технически , front-end есть, но купить ничего нельзя...
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Old Apr 28, 2003, 17:10   #8
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vabsheto nemogu skazat shto u nix s sekyuriti , no SSL dumaju shto est` ...
i razve sekyuriti ne doljen obespechit` 2checkout.com , ili net ?
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vabsheto nemogu skazat shto u nix s sekyuriti , no SSL dumaju shto est` ...
i razve sekyuriti ne doljen obespechit` 2checkout.com , ili net ?
Razumeetsa, i on ee obespechivaet - u nikh BBBOnline , chto takje bezopasno kak Verisign, znay po opity i po reviews.

No - pochemu etogo ne napisano explicitly na samom saite? Pochemu ya doljen zakhodit' na glavnuyu stranicu 2checkout.com chtobi ob etom uznat? Gde security policy kotoraya doljna mozolit' glaza pri pervom je klike na shopping cart? Ya to ne polenilsya sdelat' 3 lishnikh clicka chtobi naiti etu informaciu - no vrydal li tak sdelayut vse (osobenno, esli ne znayut kuda klikat').

Vi je ponimaete, ya ne tekhnologiu kritikuyu - s etim vse v poryadke, vidimo - a ispolnenie.

V B2C, pomimo tekhnologii, glavnoe - zavoevat' doverie klienta, v osobennosti klienta kotorii ne znaet vsekh tekhno shtuchek kotorie znaem mi s vami. A etogo ya w webshop ne uvidel. Ob etom nado dumat' esche do togo kak zateyat' proektirovat' B2C shop - esli konechno eto ne eshe odno sredstvo proest' grant kakoi-nibud'. W webshope wed daleko ne tol'ko webmastera otovaivayutsya..

Vi ne znaete, kto webshop delal?
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webshop.am eto o4erednoe der'mo vipolnenoe na grantovskie den'gi..
vsya problema v tom 4to nikto ne xo4et ponimat' vajnosti sita.. dali den'gi.. zdelali i zabili.. a to 4to on ni kopejki ne prineset ix eto ne valnuet..

nikakogo marketinga.. nikakix fishek.. ni4ego 4to maglo zastavit' skajem menya zdelat' u nix pokupku pri4em zaplativ za tovar minimum na 30-50% bol'she i k tomuje projdat' za nego 2-a dnya..

A CCart na4ali zdes' vvodit'.. do six por bili banki posredniki (Tipo rasprastraniteli CCard Alfa banka i tomu podobnogo) a v etom Mesyace uje HSBC vvel Master Card tak 4to vrode etot proces poshel.. a ploxo to 4to ya ne znayu niodnoj platejnoj systemi (bolee li menee nadejnuyu dlya pokupatelej) kotoraya rabotala bi s Armeniej v OnLine s CCard (Tot je znamenitij Verisign rabotaet isklyu4iterl'no s amerikanskimi firmami ili kak minimum firmami imeyushimi Bissnes adres v shtatax..)
Nu a esli eto problema re****ca.. (nadeyus' ne dolgo ostalos' jdat'.. po moim ras4etom gdeto godika 2-a..) i ECommerciya zdes' toje pojdet.. tembolee 4to i narod vrode postepeno k etomu idet...
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Old Apr 29, 2003, 18:03   #11
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a ploxo to 4to ya ne znayu niodnoj platejnoj systemi (bolee li menee nadejnuyu dlya pokupatelej) kotoraya rabotala bi s Armeniej v OnLine s CCard (Tot je znamenitij Verisign rabotaet isklyu4iterl'no s amerikanskimi firmami ili kak minimum firmami imeyushimi Bissnes adres v shtatax..)
eto deistvitel'no problema. ya toje special'no iskal, i ne nashel. Naverno, nado pol'zowat'sa posrednikami, kak tot je webshop. Kstati, samo ponimanie togo chto nado pol'zowatzya uje zarekomendowwannym servisom vmesto togo chtoby izobretat' velosiped.am - eto uje progress. Na toj je .ru zone oni izobreli aj celikh 4 sistemy el. oplaty - kotorimi nikto, estestwenno za predelami Rossii ne polzuetsa. No im mojno - u nih on-line rinok 10 millionow (12 e mesto v mire).
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No im mojno - u nih on-line rinok 10 millionow (12 e mesto v mire).
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