Dedicated Web Hosting

Yervand Stepanyan · May 15, 2002, 02:20

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navernoe to chto ya skaju mojno schitat' reklamoy, no vsyotaki eto kasayetsya webmasteringa i poetomu ya pishu tut a ne v komerce ..

tak vot .. yesli v armenii yest' lyudi kotorie zainteresovanni v pokupke seryoznovo hostinga (naprimer kak u http://www.pics.am ) u kotorogo parametri primerno takie ..
- multi-hosted with 7 ISPs (such as AT&T, UUNET, etc.)
- OC12 connection
- Dedicated server on windows 2000 / linux / sun / freeBSD OS. polniy root access, i krome vas (ili bez vashego dopuska) nikto ne lazit na vashu mashinu .. vsya mashina vasha .. delayte chto xotite ..
- full-time support (a real fanatical support)
physically located in Texas, USA or UK (you may choose)
- full customasible server hard and soft configuration. can install any aditional soft you need and can make any hardware configuration you need
- 99.999% server uptime guaranty (3 seconds per month downtime limit or they will pay you). btw, they now celebriate their 12 months of NO DOWNTIME.
- support many many other options you may need (such as backup, real-time server health monitoring, etc.)

tak vot, yesli yest' takie lyudi kotorim eto vsyo interesno i oni zaxoteli bi kupit' takoy hosting, mojete svyazatsya somnoy, potomu chto kak ixniy klient ya imeyu privilegia privodit' drugix klientov kotorim oni sdelayut skidku 500$ pri dogovore na 6 mesyacev (nu i mne toje zaplatyat konechno).

ot sebya lichno dobavlyu, chto servis u nix deystvitel'no prekrasniy (ni kakoy-nibud' armentel ili zavisyashiy ot armentela provider, kotoriy na vsyu kritiku tol'ko mojet otvetit' "armentel@ inch talisa enel caxum enq.."). sam ya lynx-om kachal so skorostyu 470 kilobayt/sekunda s download.com (zamet'te chto lynx kachayet tol'ko odnim kanalom) ...
dalee, o supporte .. eto prosto klasno .. net takoy situacii v kotoroy vi sebya pochustvuyete odnim .. bud' to napastia xakerov ili svoi sobstvennie oshibki ili kakoy-libo drugoy vopros

tak vot, yesli etot xosting vas ustroit (a ceni ne tak uj i visokie .. nachinaya primerno s 150$/month smotrya chto beryote) napi****i mne mailom ( ye_s@pics.am ), ustroyu skidku.

Kooper_26 · May 15, 2002, 04:00

Дорогой Ерванд, если честно, параметры читал, офигеть.
Но есть два факта:
1. нет доступа из freent-а
2. в россии это же можно получить гораздо дешевле.

а если говорить об армянских провайдерах, то здесь компьютер берут очень неохотно, да и то кажется только Web и берет. Во всяком случае, когда я искал хостинг для http://www.hay.am - а, а мне было важно иметь хостинг компьютера, чтоб сохарнить мэйл, то только Web согласился его взять. Правда в конце концов мы договорились с Noyan-Tapan-ом (бесплатно), за что им большое спасибо

но в любом случае спасибо за предложение, оно довольно интересное.

groul · May 15, 2002, 05:44

> V Rossii mozhno deshevle

Gde eto??? Adressok podkin', plz

groul · May 15, 2002, 05:45

2 Yervand

Isk traffici harcy vonc e lucvum?

Yervand Stepanyan · May 15, 2002, 14:10

Kooper_26:

nashot freenet eto ne real'no .. yesli vi xotite normal'niy xosting (t.e. ne v armenii) to vi doljni smiritsya s mislyu chto iz freeneta dostupa ne budet (ili sdelayte sebe mirror sayt ili pryamoy redirect ili drugoye texnicheskoye reshenie)
a vot nashot rosii ya tak skaju. kogda ya bil yesho v poiskax hostinga, ya obrashalsya k rosiyskim firmam, i samoye lutshee predlojenie ot nix bilo 5 GB WEBSPACE (a ne server) za 100$ v mesyac .. yesli ne oshibayus' svyaz' u nix bila 2 megabit, i voobshe mne vsyo eto ne ponravilos' (proboval otkrivat' sayti na ixnem xostinge, ne ochen'-to pashet .. kstati proboval ne tol'ko iz armenii no s raznix koncov sveta druzey prosil poprobovat' ..)
chto kasayetsya kompyutera, to ya uje skazal chto eto DEDICATED (videlenniy) server, chto znachit chto oni stavyat u sebya kompyuter (rackserver yesli ne oshibayus') kotoriy CELIKOM slujit tol'ko vam .. u menya naprimer mashina s 20 GB HDD, 128 RAM, 500 MHZ processor .. i eta mashina slujit TOL'KO mne .. nikto drugoy ne imeyet k nemu dostupa, yesli ya special'no ne poprashu ob etom supportov .. daje v tom sluchaye kogda ixniy texnar' zalezayet (po tvoyey pros'be) v tvoy kompyuter, on ne imeyet prava nichego trogat' krome togo chto ti poprosil .. mne kak-to tam chto-to popravili, i mailom poprosili reboot sdelat' .. daje reboot ne sdelali ..
tak vot, ne dumayu chto sobstvenniy kompyuter (u kotorogo v lyuboy moment mojet zagloxnut' vintilyator ili OS) kotoriy stoit u armyanskix providerov (kotorie ne ochen'-to etogo xotyat) budet rabotat' lutshe profesional'nogo servera na beshennom konnekte ..
kstati o vintilyatorax, ya vot tol'ko prochital, u nix kajdiye 90 sekund proisxodit fil'tracia vozduxa v servernoy chtobi pil'i nebilo ..

groul:

trafiki default limit@ 30 GB e, voric heto amen GB hashvum e mot 3$, u mec trafikneri depqum kan tarber skidkaner

Yervand Stepanyan · May 15, 2002, 14:18

P.S.

da, chut' ne zabil ..
xochu nashot supporta dobavit', chto eto i vpravdu FANATICAL support .. unix daje callback yest' .. zaxodish na sayt, oformlyayesh formu, otmechayesh kogda tebe zvonit' (cherez 5 minut, cherez chas, zavtra ...) i oni zvonyat tebe .. so mnoy odin texnar' iz texasa v yerevan 30 minut po telefonu baltal .. daje uchil menya kakimi progami mojno pol'zovatsya v toy ili inoy zadache .. vsyo vikladival .. vsyo chto ya sprashival ..

)
.. vobshem odnim slovom skaju chto BOLEE CHEM dovolen ixnim servizom

i kstati, yesli ktoto zaxochet takoy xosting, moya funkcia budet sostoyat' lish v tom chto ya peredam im vash nomer telefona i imya, i oni pozvonyat vam .. pogovorite, mojet o chom-to i dogovorites' .. s nimi pochti vsegda mojno dogovoritsya .. ochen' uj u nix gibkaya sistema komercii

acid · May 15, 2002, 15:12

If the company is wealthy and making good money it's not a big deal to contact customers worldwide. That means they are getting back their money afterwards for the service they are providing. I have been talking to Cisco, Babel Tech and couple other companies in Europe when I was in Yerevan, they got quick customer support services as well, so there is nothing extraordinary in your case.

30 minutes gonna cost them about $5 - $10. They will get it back quick either from you or from other customer.

But maaan...150 bucks per month is damn big money for hosting, unless! you have some big project. But it's supposed to work for foreign web market.

Yervand Stepanyan · May 15, 2002, 17:57

Quote:

Originally posted by acid:
But maaan...150 bucks per month is damn big money for hosting, unless! you have some big project. But it's supposed to work for foreign web market.

yes, it's not a little money for hosting .. so that it's for serious projects that gonna make serios things .. not just for homepages

but if you can turn your website into a moneymaking machine that will bring you at least 1000$ per month, i think you may pay that money for hosting ..

i'm not a marketing specialist, but i think there should be a rule in marketing like "to pay to earn" .. or something like that

and i think it's right

and you're sorely right that it's supposed to work on foreign market .. not for armenian or even former USSR ..

Aram Ghazanchyan · May 15, 2002, 21:37

http://www.rackshack.net/

groul · May 15, 2002, 21:56

Txerq, mot mi amis araj normal provider ei man galis mi hat projecti hamar (dedicated server or collocation), asem vor Yervandi arajarkac gnin dazhe motik gin chka...

Tenc feature-ner arajarkoxnery min $250-300 en uzum amsekan. (Isk es tesel em naev $500-600 el)

Ajnpes vor lav arajark e. Uxaki haykakan websiteri 95%-in petq e shat-shat 20MB space, qary payti mi 50MB /amsekan traffic.

groul · May 15, 2002, 22:01

P.S. http://www.rackshack.net -n el er hetaqrqir. Axper, es mi amis araj ur eiq?

)))

Aram Ghazanchyan · May 15, 2002, 23:20

2 Groul
1 amis araj dedicated server chkar

VX · May 16, 2002, 04:52

Hello Gospoda!

Znachit nachet dedicated serverov

Na samom dele oni ne dedicated, ili oni bivaut imi tol;ko v tom sluchiii kogda vi mojete svoimi glazami na nix vzglyant'.
Vi kogda nibud' slishali ob clastrenix solutionas firmi IBM ;-)
Tak vot Dear Ervand esli u vas imeetsa parol' roota ot mashini eto eshe ovsem ne oznachaet cto vam vidaut ee,
Resheniya ot IBM imeeut takuu fichu : sozdaniya POLNOCHENNOGO server, kotoriy na samom dele ne dedicated, eti resheniya poddrejivaut polnuu idividual'nost, t.e vi zakazli pIII-900Mhz, administrator stavit pticki v sottvestvuuhsix polyax i u vas okazalas' taka mashi, toest' ETO VSE EMULIROVAETSA, v rosii na promer na site ob etom chesno pishut.

G'Luck

P.S. V aremnii spokoyno mojno postavit' collocation i dowol'no priemlimie cheni.

P.P.S Na nachet lynxa (lynx.browser.org)
Kak tak ne vrubil'sya naschet kachanie odnogo kanala, ponimete flashGet toje odnim kanalom kachaet , tol'ko on otkrivaet mnogo TCP/IP coedineiy, ya duma vi prosto ne razbiraetes' (predsovlyaie, ne dumali, ne xvatila opita [podcherknut']) etom.

Yervand Stepanyan · May 16, 2002, 06:35

im asac serverner@ unen ay es tesq@

isk te sranc vra inch a havaqac kam vonc a arac, im karciqov nshanakutyun chuni, vortev hamenayn deps LRIV ARANDZIN meqena a darnum inq@ .. kamel tenc tpavorutyun a toxnum .. kamel irakanum lriv arandzin meqena a ...

isk iranc sayt@ http://www.rackspace.com -n a

uxxaki noric asem, vor yes vorpes iranc customer karam skidka kazmakerpem yete im mijocov iranc dimeq

VX · May 16, 2002, 19:33

I du dumaesh oni tebe takoy server za 150 baksov videlili

))lol

May 15, 2002, 02:20	#1
Yervand Stepanyan Posts: n/a Reputation:	Dedicated Web Hosting privet navernoe to chto ya skaju mojno schitat' reklamoy, no vsyotaki eto kasayetsya webmasteringa i poetomu ya pishu tut a ne v komerce .. tak vot .. yesli v armenii yest' lyudi kotorie zainteresovanni v pokupke seryoznovo hostinga (naprimer kak u http://www.pics.am ) u kotorogo parametri primerno takie .. - multi-hosted with 7 ISPs (such as AT&T, UUNET, etc.) - OC12 connection - Dedicated server on windows 2000 / linux / sun / freeBSD OS. polniy root access, i krome vas (ili bez vashego dopuska) nikto ne lazit na vashu mashinu .. vsya mashina vasha .. delayte chto xotite .. - full-time support (a real fanatical support) physically located in Texas, USA or UK (you may choose) - full customasible server hard and soft configuration. can install any aditional soft you need and can make any hardware configuration you need - 99.999% server uptime guaranty (3 seconds per month downtime limit or they will pay you). btw, they now celebriate their 12 months of NO DOWNTIME. - support many many other options you may need (such as backup, real-time server health monitoring, etc.) tak vot, yesli yest' takie lyudi kotorim eto vsyo interesno i oni zaxoteli bi kupit' takoy hosting, mojete svyazatsya somnoy, potomu chto kak ixniy klient ya imeyu privilegia privodit' drugix klientov kotorim oni sdelayut skidku 500$ pri dogovore na 6 mesyacev (nu i mne toje zaplatyat konechno). ot sebya lichno dobavlyu, chto servis u nix deystvitel'no prekrasniy (ni kakoy-nibud' armentel ili zavisyashiy ot armentela provider, kotoriy na vsyu kritiku tol'ko mojet otvetit' "armentel@ inch talisa enel caxum enq.."). sam ya lynx-om kachal so skorostyu 470 kilobayt/sekunda s download.com (zamet'te chto lynx kachayet tol'ko odnim kanalom) ... dalee, o supporte .. eto prosto klasno .. net takoy situacii v kotoroy vi sebya pochustvuyete odnim .. bud' to napastia xakerov ili svoi sobstvennie oshibki ili kakoy-libo drugoy vopros tak vot, yesli etot xosting vas ustroit (a ceni ne tak uj i visokie .. nachinaya primerno s 150$/month smotrya chto beryote) napi****i mne mailom ( ye_s@pics.am ), ustroyu skidku.

May 15, 2002, 04:00	#2
Kooper_26 Kooper Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hay.am Portal Posts: 350 Rep Power: 7 Reputation: 10	Дорогой Ерванд, если честно, параметры читал, офигеть. Но есть два факта: 1. нет доступа из freent-а 2. в россии это же можно получить гораздо дешевле. а если говорить об армянских провайдерах, то здесь компьютер берут очень неохотно, да и то кажется только Web и берет. Во всяком случае, когда я искал хостинг для http://www.hay.am - а, а мне было важно иметь хостинг компьютера, чтоб сохарнить мэйл, то только Web согласился его взять. Правда в конце концов мы договорились с Noyan-Tapan-ом (бесплатно), за что им большое спасибо но в любом случае спасибо за предложение, оно довольно интересное. __________________ --- RGRDS http://www.hay.am Web Administrator

May 15, 2002, 05:44	#3
groul Профессор Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York, USA Posts: 2,940 Rep Power: 7 Reputation: 10	> V Rossii mozhno deshevle Gde eto??? Adressok podkin', plz __________________ Karen Vrtanesyan, աջակցող ArmenianHouse.org - Armenian Library and Forum. Literary Cafe - Young Armenian writers and poets

May 15, 2002, 05:45	#4
groul Профессор Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York, USA Posts: 2,940 Rep Power: 7 Reputation: 10	2 Yervand Isk traffici harcy vonc e lucvum? __________________ Karen Vrtanesyan, աջակցող ArmenianHouse.org - Armenian Library and Forum. Literary Cafe - Young Armenian writers and poets

May 15, 2002, 15:12	#7
acid Administrator Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: South Korea, Gumi Posts: 7,273 Blog Entries: 15 Rep Power: 10 Reputation: 372	If the company is wealthy and making good money it's not a big deal to contact customers worldwide. That means they are getting back their money afterwards for the service they are providing. I have been talking to Cisco, Babel Tech and couple other companies in Europe when I was in Yerevan, they got quick customer support services as well, so there is nothing extraordinary in your case. 30 minutes gonna cost them about $5 - $10. They will get it back quick either from you or from other customer. But maaan...150 bucks per month is damn big money for hosting, unless! you have some big project. But it's supposed to work for foreign web market. __________________ http://big-acid.blogspot.com/

May 15, 2002, 14:10	#5
Yervand Stepanyan Posts: n/a Reputation:	Kooper_26: nashot freenet eto ne real'no .. yesli vi xotite normal'niy xosting (t.e. ne v armenii) to vi doljni smiritsya s mislyu chto iz freeneta dostupa ne budet (ili sdelayte sebe mirror sayt ili pryamoy redirect ili drugoye texnicheskoye reshenie) a vot nashot rosii ya tak skaju. kogda ya bil yesho v poiskax hostinga, ya obrashalsya k rosiyskim firmam, i samoye lutshee predlojenie ot nix bilo 5 GB WEBSPACE (a ne server) za 100$ v mesyac .. yesli ne oshibayus' svyaz' u nix bila 2 megabit, i voobshe mne vsyo eto ne ponravilos' (proboval otkrivat' sayti na ixnem xostinge, ne ochen'-to pashet .. kstati proboval ne tol'ko iz armenii no s raznix koncov sveta druzey prosil poprobovat' ..) chto kasayetsya kompyutera, to ya uje skazal chto eto DEDICATED (videlenniy) server, chto znachit chto oni stavyat u sebya kompyuter (rackserver yesli ne oshibayus') kotoriy CELIKOM slujit tol'ko vam .. u menya naprimer mashina s 20 GB HDD, 128 RAM, 500 MHZ processor .. i eta mashina slujit TOL'KO mne .. nikto drugoy ne imeyet k nemu dostupa, yesli ya special'no ne poprashu ob etom supportov .. daje v tom sluchaye kogda ixniy texnar' zalezayet (po tvoyey pros'be) v tvoy kompyuter, on ne imeyet prava nichego trogat' krome togo chto ti poprosil .. mne kak-to tam chto-to popravili, i mailom poprosili reboot sdelat' .. daje reboot ne sdelali .. tak vot, ne dumayu chto sobstvenniy kompyuter (u kotorogo v lyuboy moment mojet zagloxnut' vintilyator ili OS) kotoriy stoit u armyanskix providerov (kotorie ne ochen'-to etogo xotyat) budet rabotat' lutshe profesional'nogo servera na beshennom konnekte .. kstati o vintilyatorax, ya vot tol'ko prochital, u nix kajdiye 90 sekund proisxodit fil'tracia vozduxa v servernoy chtobi pil'i nebilo .. groul: trafiki default limit@ 30 GB e, voric heto amen GB hashvum e mot 3$, u mec trafikneri depqum kan tarber skidkaner

May 15, 2002, 14:18	#6
Yervand Stepanyan Posts: n/a Reputation:	P.S. da, chut' ne zabil .. xochu nashot supporta dobavit', chto eto i vpravdu FANATICAL support .. unix daje callback yest' .. zaxodish na sayt, oformlyayesh formu, otmechayesh kogda tebe zvonit' (cherez 5 minut, cherez chas, zavtra ...) i oni zvonyat tebe .. so mnoy odin texnar' iz texasa v yerevan 30 minut po telefonu baltal .. daje uchil menya kakimi progami mojno pol'zovatsya v toy ili inoy zadache .. vsyo vikladival .. vsyo chto ya sprashival .. ) .. vobshem odnim slovom skaju chto BOLEE CHEM dovolen ixnim servizom i kstati, yesli ktoto zaxochet takoy xosting, moya funkcia budet sostoyat' lish v tom chto ya peredam im vash nomer telefona i imya, i oni pozvonyat vam .. pogovorite, mojet o chom-to i dogovorites' .. s nimi pochti vsegda mojno dogovoritsya .. ochen' uj u nix gibkaya sistema komercii

May 15, 2002, 21:37	#9
Aram Ghazanchyan Posts: n/a Reputation:	http://www.rackshack.net/

May 15, 2002, 21:56	#10
groul Профессор Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York, USA Posts: 2,940 Rep Power: 7 Reputation: 10	Txerq, mot mi amis araj normal provider ei man galis mi hat projecti hamar (dedicated server or collocation), asem vor Yervandi arajarkac gnin dazhe motik gin chka... Tenc feature-ner arajarkoxnery min $250-300 en uzum amsekan. (Isk es tesel em naev $500-600 el) Ajnpes vor lav arajark e. Uxaki haykakan websiteri 95%-in petq e shat-shat 20MB space, qary payti mi 50MB /amsekan traffic. __________________ Karen Vrtanesyan, աջակցող ArmenianHouse.org - Armenian Library and Forum. Literary Cafe - Young Armenian writers and poets

May 15, 2002, 22:01	#11
groul Профессор Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York, USA Posts: 2,940 Rep Power: 7 Reputation: 10	P.S. http://www.rackshack.net -n el er hetaqrqir. Axper, es mi amis araj ur eiq? ))) __________________ Karen Vrtanesyan, աջակցող ArmenianHouse.org - Armenian Library and Forum. Literary Cafe - Young Armenian writers and poets

May 15, 2002, 23:20	#12
Aram Ghazanchyan Posts: n/a Reputation:	2 Groul 1 amis araj dedicated server chkar

May 16, 2002, 04:52	#13
VX Консервативный Демагог Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Кавказская Албания Posts: 889 Rep Power: 7 Reputation: 10	Hello Gospoda! Znachit nachet dedicated serverov Na samom dele oni ne dedicated, ili oni bivaut imi tol;ko v tom sluchiii kogda vi mojete svoimi glazami na nix vzglyant'. Vi kogda nibud' slishali ob clastrenix solutionas firmi IBM ;-) Tak vot Dear Ervand esli u vas imeetsa parol' roota ot mashini eto eshe ovsem ne oznachaet cto vam vidaut ee, Resheniya ot IBM imeeut takuu fichu : sozdaniya POLNOCHENNOGO server, kotoriy na samom dele ne dedicated, eti resheniya poddrejivaut polnuu idividual'nost, t.e vi zakazli pIII-900Mhz, administrator stavit pticki v sottvestvuuhsix polyax i u vas okazalas' taka mashi, toest' ETO VSE EMULIROVAETSA, v rosii na promer na site ob etom chesno pishut. G'Luck P.S. V aremnii spokoyno mojno postavit' collocation i dowol'no priemlimie cheni. P.P.S Na nachet lynxa (lynx.browser.org) Kak tak ne vrubil'sya naschet kachanie odnogo kanala, ponimete flashGet toje odnim kanalom kachaet , tol'ko on otkrivaet mnogo TCP/IP coedineiy, ya duma vi prosto ne razbiraetes' (predsovlyaie, ne dumali, ne xvatila opita [podcherknut']) etom. __________________ Праздник к нам приходит... \|^^^^^^^^^'''^\\| \|\|\__ \| ВОДКА-ВОДКА \| \|\|','''\|'''''''\_____,_ \| _..... _ \| \|\|_ _\|'__\|_____\|\|.........\| \| '(@)'(@)'(@)''''''''''''''''''''''\|(@)""""\|(@)

May 16, 2002, 06:35	#14
Yervand Stepanyan Posts: n/a Reputation:	im asac serverner@ unen ay es tesq@ isk te sranc vra inch a havaqac kam vonc a arac, im karciqov nshanakutyun chuni, vortev hamenayn deps LRIV ARANDZIN meqena a darnum inq@ .. kamel tenc tpavorutyun a toxnum .. kamel irakanum lriv arandzin meqena a ... isk iranc sayt@ http://www.rackspace.com -n a uxxaki noric asem, vor yes vorpes iranc customer karam skidka kazmakerpem yete im mijocov iranc dimeq

May 16, 2002, 19:33	#15
VX Консервативный Демагог Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Кавказская Албания Posts: 889 Rep Power: 7 Reputation: 10	I du dumaesh oni tebe takoy server za 150 baksov videlili ))lol __________________ Праздник к нам приходит... \|^^^^^^^^^'''^\\| \|\|\__ \| ВОДКА-ВОДКА \| \|\|','''\|'''''''\_____,_ \| _..... _ \| \|\|_ _\|'__\|_____\|\|.........\| \| '(@)'(@)'(@)''''''''''''''''''''''\|(@)""""\|(@)

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