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13.09.2005, 11:15
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| bored elephant  Join Date: 08 2005 Location: Valadilene
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 I myself also was practicing such a way of studying, mostly based on translating lyrics of Pink Floyd and Nirvana, but again you have to have some basis to cope on this way.And it's good for another reason...you can hear text which you translated several times(and it happens so, if song is one you like)
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13.09.2005, 11:38
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| սև, մունդառ ու մանրմունր  Join Date: 07 2003 Location: in my life Age: 42
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Guys, are you serious about the lyrics? Learning lyrics can help you memorize some words, but how are you going to put the words in a sentence? Learning any kind of discourse by heart is quite helpful in terms of memorizing words and phrases, but not more. Basically, studying any foreing language should be based on the development of teh following skills: 1. Listening comprehension 2. Reading comprehension 3. Writing skills 4. Speaking skills Memorizing the lyrics can help you a bit with speaking skills and listening comprehension, but not much, since the vocabulary of most groups is quite colloquial.
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13.09.2005, 15:16
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| poor misguided fool  Join Date: 03 2005 Location: Yerevan Age: 32
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ok.... here's my story. my first steps of learning english was in kinder garden. there was a young english teacher who taught us some words. then i went to school where i had to learn the same words and expressions (perhaps a little more) that i had learnt in kinder garden. when i was 8, i moved to prague with my family. i went to british international school of prague. our classes were in english, everything in english. so i had to learn it anyhow. i did it mostly by communicating. it's kind of interesting way of learning. you don't speak english and then one day you realize that you even think in english. you don't remember how it happened, how did you learn each word and even the letters (yeah, i didn't know the letters too). when i came back to armenia, i was in a danger of forgetting the language. my mum wanted me to go to school No. 114 but they didn't accept me telling there's not enough space for a new pupil. so i went back to the school where i had started. we had an awful english teacher (she pronounced soup as soap and made many other such mistakes). so i had to read english books for keeping the language. and then i had a private teacher which would come to our house three times a week. she didn't satisfy so i stopped those lessons after some months. well, i kept reading books, translating lyrics (believe me, it helps a lot for learning new words!) and i began to communicate with english-speakers via internet. and then i went to university. my first 2 years in the university were the best time for improving my english. especially the second year. i had an amazing teacher who gave me probably as much as it was possible to receive in a year.
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13.09.2005, 15:30
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| панаехавший  Join Date: 06 2003 Location: форпост Age: 32
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If this goes on I'll be telling about how I came to learn armenian... I come to remember... my first armenian word was "dur" (door).  |
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13.09.2005, 15:37
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| bored elephant Join Date: 08 2005 Location: Valadilene
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13.09.2005, 15:45
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| панаехавший Join Date: 06 2003 Location: форпост Age: 32
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A friend of mine has a particular obsession with music. He used to come over to me asking me to translate phrases from songs. Was that hell? Trying to understand something a person with no prononciation at all tells you, which is in itself overinvented slang, often not carrying any meaning by itself... Let alone translate it.
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13.09.2005, 15:51
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| սև, մունդառ ու մանրմունր Join Date: 07 2003 Location: in my life Age: 42
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OK, I accept the correction Yeah, it's good for improvement. However, reading good fiction is much more effective...
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13.09.2005, 16:18
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| bored elephant Join Date: 08 2005 Location: Valadilene
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So my advice is : You don't need to look up every word...there is very few words, which must be translated to get the whole meaning, others should come by intuition...And it not becomes to a boring process... And again I'd like pay special attention to: You must be minimum on the intermediate level to use this way of practicing | |
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13.09.2005, 16:26
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| bored elephant Join Date: 08 2005 Location: Valadilene
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)...you ought not to translate Black Metal or Trash bands Lyrics basing on the songs and not the lyrics, sure if I understood you right  | |
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13.09.2005, 16:36
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| the happiest girl Join Date: 02 2002 Location: Yerevan
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The thing about lyrics is that you know them by heart, so once you learn the meaning it sticks  I have heard about Beatles helping to learn English myself.
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13.09.2005, 16:51
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| bored elephant Join Date: 08 2005 Location: Valadilene
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13.09.2005, 16:52
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| սև, մունդառ ու մանրմունր Join Date: 07 2003 Location: in my life Age: 42
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The Beatles do help But along with a limited number of really nice words and expression, such language as "my baby don't care" sticks, too |
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13.09.2005, 18:06
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| poor misguided fool Join Date: 03 2005 Location: Yerevan Age: 32
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my friend hasn't studied english anywhere. the only english words and phrases she knows are from lyrics.  at least she'll be able to communicate with a foreigner somehow
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14.09.2005, 12:29
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14.09.2005, 12:56
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| bored elephant Join Date: 08 2005 Location: Valadilene
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Friends, Lately I read in a book a method of remembering new words. Here it is: You write words(which you want to learn in a some period of time) on sheet of papers and hang them on the walls around your room...You can write them in different colors and sizes to make them more "visible". After a defined period of time you find that you know most of them!!! Sure it is for ones who spent most of their time in their room...and look sometimes on the walls I haven't tried it myself...but it seems to be helpful |
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