Подскажите

**Vazgen Abgaryan** · 01.08.2007, 19:56

Подскажите плиз кто помнит- раньше какой-то сервис был, назывался что-то вроде bigmailbox то ли fatmailbox, который предоставлял пространство бесплатное под почтовый хостинг.
Есть ли сейчас такое?
Спасибо

**Vazgen Abgaryan** · 01.08.2007, 19:58

http://www.bigmailbox.com/ если не ошибаюсь, но не открывает

Робинзое_Крузо · 09.08.2007, 00:44

Uzum es qez anvchar mi 15MB im serveri vra paddomainov xosting tam? amen inch uni, anvchar.

**Vazgen Abgaryan** · 09.08.2007, 08:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Робинзое_Крузо

Uzum es qez anvchar mi 15MB im serveri vra paddomainov xosting tam? amen inch uni, anvchar.

Mersi bayc et lucum chi.
Menq inqners server unenq sepakan.
Petqa mail asenq 25000 hogu hamar

Mesrop · 09.08.2007, 12:11

...

Gates · 09.08.2007, 12:16

gmail.com

Mesrop · 09.08.2007, 16:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gates

gmail.com

imho da en chi inch vor petq a Vazgenin, chnayac yes konkret chhaskaca inch e petq

**Vazgen Abgaryan** · 09.08.2007, 16:59

Gates: Артур джан если уговоришь Gmail выдавать бесплатные адреса типа [email protected] c 10-15 Mb местом, цены тебе не будет

OjoG · 09.08.2007, 23:25

https://www.google.com/a/smallbiz/

Avetis Avagyan · 10.08.2007, 06:30

Если Вазген не найдет этот бесплатный сервер, то можно в конце-концов просто купить dedicated сервер и на нем делать все что угодно. Цены сейчас сильно спали на dedicated сервера... но однако, 25000 очень серьезная цифра

**Vazgen Abgaryan** · 10.08.2007, 08:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avetis Avagyan

Если Вазген не найдет этот бесплатный сервер, то можно в конце-концов просто купить dedicated сервер и на нем делать все что угодно. Цены сейчас сильно спали на dedicated сервера... но однако, 25000 очень серьезная цифра

Аветис: Сервера у нас были. Причем 3 сервера в разничных локациях.
Тут принципиален вопрос размещения этого сервера в .АМ зоне. Но так как пока это из-за бешеной стоимости канала невозможно, то хотелось сначала разместить на тестовой основе на сервисе типа bixmailbox.com потом перенести на наш сервер в Армении

Робинзое_Крузо · 12.08.2007, 21:15

350GB taracq dwvar te anvchar chares, pritom e-mail dviwokov u [email protected] qo uzac tesqi standartov.

**Vazgen Abgaryan** · 13.08.2007, 06:41

350 Gb taracq es chem el porcum anvchar charel.
[email protected]` bigmailbox.com -el anvchar cher.
Erkrodnel da indz petq er 1-2 amsov minchev portal liovin patrast lini

Avetis Avagyan · 13.08.2007, 10:12

Dear Vazgen,

If your customers are not from within Armenia I'll really not recommend re-locating server to Armenia. You will get huge bill and all kinds of bandwidth problems (stability, etc.). My experience shows that serious business should be hosted outside of Armenia - Armenia is not ready for serious business.

Traffic is not a problem for mail flow ("email can wait", but for accessing mailboxes (web-based, IMAP, etc.).

In regard of dedicated servers (outside of Armenia) 1 TB free traffic is usually included in server's fee (server's fee around 100 USD per month). Other issue is disk space and processing power, which you will need in big amounts.

**Vazgen Abgaryan** · 13.08.2007, 18:49

Avetis, thanks a lot for the advice. I really know that hosting projects outside Armenia is better. We do also have partner programms with datacenters so we can purchase a server on lower prices. I have had servers in Moscow, SPB, USA, Germany and know all their strength and weekness.
I had a server Dual Core 2.66 Ghz with 1 Gb RAM and 2x160 Gb HDD with 100 Mbps shared unlimited bandwidth for 70 EUR per month. However the point is that we should try to develope the ArmNet that is why I would like it be in Armenia. Besides hosting an email server abroad will have really serious problems because of the abuses possible spam may cause. In fact I've been is Russian web hosting market since the year 2005. I know all the popular datacenters very well.
I used to have a server with Savvis DC, TX on LayeredTech hardware. Well if one of the customers sent a spam message which would cause abuse(and they would certainly do) the staff just turned off the server until you asked them to turn it on back. Since the time difference the server was out for about 12 hours 3 or 4 times. That is why I moved the server to HopOne DC, DC they are more tolerant to abuses.
And on mail server spam issues will be of course a great unavoidable problem.
I'm know thinking of mirroring which is another big problem

I can have a server for 49 EUR now in Germany with an excellent trace results free reboot port, free KVM, control panel but anyway that would not be a solution. I am still looking forward to Armenian servers despite all the problems. In fact the server is installed now here on Arminco channel. I even setup the DIrectAdmin CP for hosting purposes but the bandwidth problem didn't let me start using it for any kind of commercial and even non-commercial purposes.
Hoping for the better

01.08.2007, 19:56	#1
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Avetis Avagyan Дошкольник Join Date: 02 2007 Location: Yerevan, Armenia Posts: 111 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0 Reputation: 66 \| 3	Если Вазген не найдет этот бесплатный сервер, то можно в конце-концов просто купить dedicated сервер и на нем делать все что угодно. Цены сейчас сильно спали на dedicated сервера... но однако, 25000 очень серьезная цифра Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

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Робинзое_Крузо Младенец Join Date: 07 2007 Location: Yerevan Posts: 8 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0 Reputation: 0 \| 0	350GB taracq dwvar te anvchar chares, pritom e-mail dviwokov u [email protected] qo uzac tesqi standartov. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

13.08.2007, 06:41	#13
Vazgen Abgaryan Optimist Join Date: 10 2001 Location: Yerevan Posts: 712 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0 Reputation: 53 \| 4	350 Gb taracq es chem el porcum anvchar charel. [email protected]` bigmailbox.com -el anvchar cher. Erkrodnel da indz petq er 1-2 amsov minchev portal liovin patrast lini Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

13.08.2007, 10:12	#14
Avetis Avagyan Дошкольник Join Date: 02 2007 Location: Yerevan, Armenia Posts: 111 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0 Reputation: 66 \| 3	Dear Vazgen, If your customers are not from within Armenia I'll really not recommend re-locating server to Armenia. You will get huge bill and all kinds of bandwidth problems (stability, etc.). My experience shows that serious business should be hosted outside of Armenia - Armenia is not ready for serious business. Traffic is not a problem for mail flow ("email can wait", but for accessing mailboxes (web-based, IMAP, etc.). In regard of dedicated servers (outside of Armenia) 1 TB free traffic is usually included in server's fee (server's fee around 100 USD per month). Other issue is disk space and processing power, which you will need in big amounts. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

13.08.2007, 18:49	#15
Vazgen Abgaryan Optimist Join Date: 10 2001 Location: Yerevan Posts: 712 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0 Reputation: 53 \| 4	Avetis, thanks a lot for the advice. I really know that hosting projects outside Armenia is better. We do also have partner programms with datacenters so we can purchase a server on lower prices. I have had servers in Moscow, SPB, USA, Germany and know all their strength and weekness. I had a server Dual Core 2.66 Ghz with 1 Gb RAM and 2x160 Gb HDD with 100 Mbps shared unlimited bandwidth for 70 EUR per month. However the point is that we should try to develope the ArmNet that is why I would like it be in Armenia. Besides hosting an email server abroad will have really serious problems because of the abuses possible spam may cause. In fact I've been is Russian web hosting market since the year 2005. I know all the popular datacenters very well. I used to have a server with Savvis DC, TX on LayeredTech hardware. Well if one of the customers sent a spam message which would cause abuse(and they would certainly do) the staff just turned off the server until you asked them to turn it on back. Since the time difference the server was out for about 12 hours 3 or 4 times. That is why I moved the server to HopOne DC, DC they are more tolerant to abuses. And on mail server spam issues will be of course a great unavoidable problem. I'm know thinking of mirroring which is another big problem I can have a server for 49 EUR now in Germany with an excellent trace results free reboot port, free KVM, control panel but anyway that would not be a solution. I am still looking forward to Armenian servers despite all the problems. In fact the server is installed now here on Arminco channel. I even setup the DIrectAdmin CP for hosting purposes but the bandwidth problem didn't let me start using it for any kind of commercial and even non-commercial purposes. Hoping for the better Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ http://www.am.am Last edited by Vazgen Abgaryan; 13.08.2007 at 19:05.