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groul · 29.07.2002, 13:25

Народ, зацените новую версию, плз.
Жесткая и конструктивная критика welcomed.
Линки не работают.
Проверено в Netscape 4.78 (наблюдаются небольшие глюки), 6.2; Opera 5 (тоже глюки), 6; IE 6

http://armenianhouse.org/newdesign/index.htm

aramx · 29.07.2002, 14:13

hi groul jan...

1. 8o% ov texta na stranice napisan v Times, a pochemu v nekotorix razdelax, naprimer v Language Tools ili tam Sections vse menyayetsya na Verdana?

2. B srednix razdelax, eto gde "Batable ground", "You?" i "Language Tools", text v 3x etix razdelax neproporcionalen, to yest' k primeru v "Batable ground" razdel pochti polnostyu nabit textom, a "You" na yego fone viglyadit cherezchur golo.

A v ostal'nom vse predel'no strogo i krasivo, pozdravlyayu

Arik · 29.07.2002, 15:29

2 groul..:

nas4et fontov vse verno.. isprav' css
(na Verdana ili Arial)

ya bi eshe pomenyal bi captioni s krasnimi bukvami..: ne simpoti4no smotryatca

i popravil bi podval..
uj o4en' prosto i nevzra4no..
vmesto etogo:

Code:

  <table width=&quot;100%&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot;>
        <tr>
          <td bgcolor=&quot;#efefef&quot;><img src=&quot;img/d.gif&quot; width=&quot;600&quot; height=&quot;3&quot;></td>
        </tr>
        <tr>
          <td bgcolor=&quot;#CCCCCC&quot; style=&quot;padding-top: 6px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 6px; padding-left: 6px&quot; class=&quot;coltxtsmall&quot;>
            <table width=&quot;100%&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot;>
              <tr>
                <td nowrap class=&quot;coltxtsmall&quot;>&copy; K. &amp; A. Vrtanesyan   <a href=&quot;/notfound.htm&quot;>Legal Notice</a></td>
                <td align=&quot;right&quot; nowrap><img src=&quot;img/cycounter.gif&quot; width=&quot;88&quot; height=&quot;31&quot; align=&quot;absmiddle&quot;> <img src=&quot;img/ramb.gif&quot; width=&quot;88&quot; height=&quot;31&quot; align=&quot;absmiddle&quot;></td>
              </tr>
            </table>
          </td>
        </tr>
        <tr>
          <td bgcolor=&quot;#999999&quot;><img src=&quot;img/d.gif&quot; width=&quot;600&quot; height=&quot;2&quot;></td>
        </tr>
        <tr>
          <td bgcolor=&quot;#999999&quot;><img src=&quot;img/d.gif&quot; width=&quot;1&quot; height=&quot;1&quot;></td>
        </tr>
      </table>

mojno bilo:

Code:

 
<table width=&quot;100%&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot;>
        <tr>
          <td bgcolor=&quot;#999999&quot; height=&quot;1&quot;><img src=&quot;img/d.gif&quot; width=&quot;600&quot; height=&quot;1&quot;></td>
        </tr>
        <tr>
          <td style=&quot;padding-top: 6px; padding-right: 6px; padding-bottom: 6px; padding-left: 6px&quot; class=&quot;coltxtsmall&quot;>
            <table width=&quot;100%&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot;>
              <tr>
                <td nowrap><img src=&quot;img/cycounter.gif&quot; width=&quot;88&quot; height=&quot;31&quot; align=&quot;absmiddle&quot;> <img src=&quot;img/ramb.gif&quot; width=&quot;88&quot; height=&quot;31&quot; align=&quot;absmiddle&quot;></td>
                <td align=&quot;right&quot; nowrap class=&quot;coltxtsmall&quot;>&copy; K. &amp; A. Vrtanesyan   <a href=&quot;/notfound.htm&quot;>Legal Notice</a></td>

              </tr>
            </table>
          </td>
        </tr>
</table>

Arik · 29.07.2002, 16:13

Code:

 
<body bgcolor=&quot;#FFFFFF&quot; text=&quot;#000000&quot; link=&quot;#CC0000&quot; vlink=&quot;#CC6666&quot; alink=&quot;#FF0000&quot;>
	<table width=&quot;100%&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; cellspacing=&quot;5&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot;>

width="100%" zadumka pravil'nay..
no posmotri 4to slu4aetca kogda umen'shaesh site...
tak kak u tebya (pomoemu) 3-i tabla drug pod drugom...

resheniya 2-a:
libo razmit' granicu tablov...
libo sdelat' eshe odin osnavnoj table s 3-mya row i vpixnut' eti tabli v eti row..

Pprav' 4uto4ku designe i perejdem k codu
(esli xo4esh prishli html-i ya poprobuyu vikroit' vremya..) [email protected] ili na [email protected]

groul · 29.07.2002, 20:38

thanx for comments

shya doedu do raboty, podrobno otvechu...

groul · 29.07.2002, 23:29

2 acid & Arik

Re: Verdana vs Times
Voobshe-to eto feature, a ne bug

No tak kak uzhe neskolko chelovek eto otmechayut, znachit feature ne udachnyj.

Menus sdelany v Verdane special'no. Eto menyat' en budu.

Naschet Times New Roman
Delo v tom chto ya ne xotel stavit' kakoj-libo font dlya textov, xotel ostavit' default. No IE nachinaya s versii pomenyal svoj chertov default na Arial (kazhetsya), pri etom razmer medium dlya Arial poluchayetsya v 2 raza bolshe chem medium dlya Times.
Prishlos' dobavlyat' Times cherez CSS.

No pri bol'shom kolichestve linkov v "batable" i "tools" poluchayetsya bardak, poetomu prishlos' umen'**** ' shrift. Pri umen'shenii zhe: Times sux

, prishlos' stavit' Verdana
Vot tak i poluchilos'...

Any ideas?

groul · 29.07.2002, 23:32

2 aramx

2. B srednix razdelax, eto gde "Batable ground", "You?" i "Language Tools", text v 3x etix razdelax neproporcionalen, to yest' k primeru v "Batable ground" razdel pochti polnostyu nabit textom, a "You" na yego fone viglyadit cherezchur golo.

Znayu. Ne znayu uzhe kak s etim borotsya. Vse sections: eto samoe vazhnoe chto dolzhen uvidet' surfer. Ubrat' ix ne mogu. Est' li predlozheniya po pereustroystvu?

V principe pri 1024 eto vsyo vyglyadit kak konfetka, no pri 800x600, soglasen. Poluchayetsya bardak.

groul · 29.07.2002, 23:49

2 Arik

width="100%" zadumka pravil'nay..
no posmotri 4to slu4aetca kogda umen'shaesh site...
Znayu. Esli ty zametil, v verxnej i nizhnej polose stoyat ogranichiteli szhimaniya: d.gif rastyanutyj na 600px

K sozhaleniyu pri dobavlenii takogo zhe gifa w bezobidnyj kazalos' by verxnij row osnovnoj tablicy (tot kotoryj rowspan="5", nad menu i pereklyuchatelem yazykov) srednyaya tablica letit k chertu.

ANy ideas are welcomed...

libo razmit' granicu tablov...
Ne vrubilsya. Eto kak?

libo sdelat' eshe odin osnavnoj table s 3-mya row i vpixnut' eti tabli v eti row..
znayu, no tak delat' ne budu. Slishkom mnogo vlozhennyx tablic, krome togo stranica ne risuetsya poka ne zagruzitsya polnostyu.

Naschet samoj nizhnej temno seroj poloski, well, soglasen. Uberu, posmotryu kak budet vyglyadet. Skoree vsego luchshe.

Arik · 29.07.2002, 23:50

2 groul:
IMHO

ludshe vse pomenyat' na Verdana ili Arial
(togda pomne i pustota ne tak budet brosatca v glaza)
Zagolovki sdelat' postroje..

i s razmerami tablic nado toje 4toto delat'..

groul · 30.07.2002, 00:28

Quote:

Originally posted by Arik:
ludshe vse pomenyat' na Verdana ili Arial
(togda pomne i pustota ne tak budet brosatca v glaza)

Ox kak ne xochetsya... Arial i Verdana v texte sozdayut oshusheniye sovremennosti, a mne xochetsya dat' oshushenie imenno akademichnosti.

Quote:

Originally posted by Arik:

Zagolovki sdelat' postroje..

Kakie? Ty imeeshe vvidu: "News", "Batable Ground"? Edinstvennyj sposob, eto sdelat' ikonki i sdelat' nadpis' textom. No ikonki risuyu ya sam: na idea + voploshenie uxodit 5-6 chasov chistogo vremeni! Mozhesh' predlozhit' naprimer ideyu dlya ikonki "Batable ground" ("Spornaya territoriya" aka Forum)?
Xotya esli chestno mne i tak nravitsya.

Quote:

Originally posted by Arik:

i s razmerami tablic nado toje 4toto delat'..

Nado! Archivazhno (c) V. I. Lenin

No chto?

strax. · 30.07.2002, 12:01

groul voch mi depkum chpoxes et [email protected]!!!

shat klassik mi ban a stacvel, dzum a! da feature a iskakanic

groul · 30.07.2002, 12:17

2 strax

vor fontery i nkati unes?

strax. · 30.07.2002, 12:25

Quote:

Originally posted by groul:
2 strax

vor fontery i nkati unes?

Times New Roman u Verdana shat lav a nayvum

groul · 30.07.2002, 13:20

2 All

Hashvi em arel vorosh nkatoxutyuner.

Nax bolor textery baci menuneric Times New Roman en (tox indz neren Verdanai siraharnery...) yndhanur vochy pahelu hamar.

Anhavasar sexmvox axyusakneri harcnel e vonc vor te uxxvel.

Ariki xorhordov haneci taki mug gicy - iskapes vochakan xaxtum er.

Shnorhakalutyun bolorin arajarkneri hamar.
El inch kaseq?

Arik · 30.07.2002, 15:23

2 Groul:

Podvalum es voobsheej asum serij BG-n haneir.

(no eto ne vajno)

Times New Romane 4es uzum mcnes css-i me4 vor 4ape 4poxi brouseri fonti 4apic kaxvac..?
esli tak i zadumivalos' to vse Oki.. vse na svoix mestax..

29.07.2002, 13:25	#1
groul Профессор Join Date: 01 2002 Location: New York, USA Posts: 2,938 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0 Reputation: 0 \| 0	Критика ArmenianHouse.org Народ, зацените новую версию, плз. Жесткая и конструктивная критика welcomed. Линки не работают. Проверено в Netscape 4.78 (наблюдаются небольшие глюки), 6.2; Opera 5 (тоже глюки), 6; IE 6 http://armenianhouse.org/newdesign/index.htm Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

29.07.2002, 14:13	#2
aramx старожил Join Date: 01 2002 Location: Ереван, РА Age: 37 Posts: 9,853 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0 Reputation: 80 \| 5	hi groul jan... 1. 8o% ov texta na stranice napisan v Times, a pochemu v nekotorix razdelax, naprimer v Language Tools ili tam Sections vse menyayetsya na Verdana? 2. B srednix razdelax, eto gde "Batable ground", "You?" i "Language Tools", text v 3x etix razdelax neproporcionalen, to yest' k primeru v "Batable ground" razdel pochti polnostyu nabit textom, a "You" na yego fone viglyadit cherezchur golo. A v ostal'nom vse predel'no strogo i krasivo, pozdravlyayu Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ ZOOM GRAPHICS www.zoom.am

29.07.2002, 16:13	#4
Arik Магистр Join Date: 02 2002 Location: Am Posts: 952 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0 Reputation: 26 \| 4	Code: <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" link="#CC0000" vlink="#CC6666" alink="#FF0000"> <table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="5" cellpadding="0"> width="100%" zadumka pravil'nay.. no posmotri 4to slu4aetca kogda umen'shaesh site... tak kak u tebya (pomoemu) 3-i tabla drug pod drugom... resheniya 2-a: libo razmit' granicu tablov... libo sdelat' eshe odin osnavnoj table s 3-mya row i vpixnut' eti tabli v eti row.. Pprav' 4uto4ku designe i perejdem k codu (esli xo4esh prishli html-i ya poprobuyu vikroit' vremya..) [email protected] ili na [email protected] Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ talent agency casting.am Center of Internet Projects Support http://www.online.am Armenian newspapers digest http://www.armpress.com _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Bud'te proshe i narod k vam potyanetca

29.07.2002, 20:38	#5
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29.07.2002, 23:29	#6
groul Профессор Join Date: 01 2002 Location: New York, USA Posts: 2,938 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0 Reputation: 0 \| 0	2 acid & Arik Re: Verdana vs Times Voobshe-to eto feature, a ne bug No tak kak uzhe neskolko chelovek eto otmechayut, znachit feature ne udachnyj. Menus sdelany v Verdane special'no. Eto menyat' en budu. Naschet Times New Roman Delo v tom chto ya ne xotel stavit' kakoj-libo font dlya textov, xotel ostavit' default. No IE nachinaya s versii pomenyal svoj chertov default na Arial (kazhetsya), pri etom razmer medium dlya Arial poluchayetsya v 2 raza bolshe chem medium dlya Times. Prishlos' dobavlyat' Times cherez CSS. No pri bol'shom kolichestve linkov v "batable" i "tools" poluchayetsya bardak, poetomu prishlos' umen'** ' shrift. Pri umen'shenii zhe: Times sux , prishlos' stavit' Verdana Vot tak i poluchilos'... Any ideas? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter __________________ Karen Vrtanesyan, աջակցող ArmenianHouse.org - Armenian Library and Forum. Literary Cafe - Young Armenian writers and poets**

29.07.2002, 23:32	#7
groul Профессор Join Date: 01 2002 Location: New York, USA Posts: 2,938 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0 Reputation: 0 \| 0	2 aramx 2. B srednix razdelax, eto gde "Batable ground", "You?" i "Language Tools", text v 3x etix razdelax neproporcionalen, to yest' k primeru v "Batable ground" razdel pochti polnostyu nabit textom, a "You" na yego fone viglyadit cherezchur golo. Znayu. Ne znayu uzhe kak s etim borotsya. Vse sections: eto samoe vazhnoe chto dolzhen uvidet' surfer. Ubrat' ix ne mogu. Est' li predlozheniya po pereustroystvu? V principe pri 1024 eto vsyo vyglyadit kak konfetka, no pri 800x600, soglasen. Poluchayetsya bardak. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

29.07.2002, 23:49	#8
groul Профессор Join Date: 01 2002 Location: New York, USA Posts: 2,938 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0 Reputation: 0 \| 0	2 Arik width="100%" zadumka pravil'nay.. no posmotri 4to slu4aetca kogda umen'shaesh site... Znayu. Esli ty zametil, v verxnej i nizhnej polose stoyat ogranichiteli szhimaniya: d.gif rastyanutyj na 600px K sozhaleniyu pri dobavlenii takogo zhe gifa w bezobidnyj kazalos' by verxnij row osnovnoj tablicy (tot kotoryj rowspan="5", nad menu i pereklyuchatelem yazykov) srednyaya tablica letit k chertu. ANy ideas are welcomed... libo razmit' granicu tablov... Ne vrubilsya. Eto kak? libo sdelat' eshe odin osnavnoj table s 3-mya row i vpixnut' eti tabli v eti row.. znayu, no tak delat' ne budu. Slishkom mnogo vlozhennyx tablic, krome togo stranica ne risuetsya poka ne zagruzitsya polnostyu. Naschet samoj nizhnej temno seroj poloski, well, soglasen. Uberu, posmotryu kak budet vyglyadet. Skoree vsego luchshe. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

29.07.2002, 23:50	#9
Arik Магистр Join Date: 02 2002 Location: Am Posts: 952 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0 Reputation: 26 \| 4	2 groul: IMHO ludshe vse pomenyat' na Verdana ili Arial (togda pomne i pustota ne tak budet brosatca v glaza) Zagolovki sdelat' postroje.. i s razmerami tablic nado toje 4toto delat'.. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

30.07.2002, 12:01	#11
strax. Школьник Join Date: 04 2002 Location: Vanadzor Posts: 227 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0 Reputation: 0 \| 0	groul voch mi depkum chpoxes et [email protected]!!! shat klassik mi ban a stacvel, dzum a! da feature a iskakanic Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

30.07.2002, 12:17	#12
groul Профессор Join Date: 01 2002 Location: New York, USA Posts: 2,938 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0 Reputation: 0 \| 0	2 strax vor fontery i nkati unes? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

30.07.2002, 13:20	#14
groul Профессор Join Date: 01 2002 Location: New York, USA Posts: 2,938 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0 Reputation: 0 \| 0	2 All Hashvi em arel vorosh nkatoxutyuner. Nax bolor textery baci menuneric Times New Roman en (tox indz neren Verdanai siraharnery...) yndhanur vochy pahelu hamar. Anhavasar sexmvox axyusakneri harcnel e vonc vor te uxxvel. Ariki xorhordov haneci taki mug gicy - iskapes vochakan xaxtum er. Shnorhakalutyun bolorin arajarkneri hamar. El inch kaseq? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter

30.07.2002, 15:23	#15
Arik Магистр Join Date: 02 2002 Location: Am Posts: 952 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0 Reputation: 26 \| 4	2 Groul: Podvalum es voobsheej asum serij BG-n haneir. (no eto ne vajno) Times New Romane 4es uzum mcnes css-i me4 vor 4ape 4poxi brouseri fonti 4apic kaxvac..? esli tak i zadumivalos' to vse Oki.. vse na svoix mestax.. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter