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Privet Artur Kak ti dumaesh, ne luchshe li bilo bi, esli bi ti viskazal "ob etom"[hay.em/new] v privat message??? Na moy vzglyad, takoy variant bolee "Pravilnii", chem ... |
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Младенец Join Date: 04 2002 Location: Russia
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2 groul ... Vpolne vozmojno, chto ti prav... No ya nadeyalysa, chto kto-kto, no ti , kak "umnii (eto kompliment -reclama ![]() Rech ni idyet o Arture (znaya ego, mogu s uverennostu skazat', chto ne etu sel' on prisledoval), no v podovnix postupkax ya viju chto to na podobiye "Stukachestvo" ili kak min zloradstvo !!! Eto lichno moye mneniye, and ne udivlyus', esli u tebya budet obsolyutno drugoy vzglyad... |
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2 Davi > addressovaniye Vagr-u slova, kasalis' ne tol'ko emu Mozhet byt'. I vsyo zhe ya schitayu, chto v etix forumax kritika dolzhna byt' otkrytaya. A to opyat' skatimsya k variantu "hayavari - axper vonc tenc klini, ba vor bac-bac asem u nexana..." Petq e asel u petq e bac-bac asel, vor urishnern el nuyn sxalnery chkrknen. *Vsyo skazannoe vyzhe iz serii IMHO. ![]()
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Младенец Join Date: 04 2002 Location: Russia
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Groul.. ponimaesh pod otkrituyu kritiku ya ponimayu... kogda kto-to kritikuyet chiyu to rabotu: daje esli eto sdelanno ne v samoy "myagkoy" forme ili ne sovsem correct. No, kogda ti menya, ili ya tebya poymayu za vorovstvo (v dannom sluchaye za plagiyat), to bilo bi pravil'neye (daje esli mi ne znakomi) skazat' mne ob etom privatno, chem krichat' na ves' gorod. esli uj posle etogo, ya tebya poshlyu ,,, a tebe tak uj zaxochetsya unizit' menya pri vsex... tol'ko togda stoit krichat' vselyudno . lichno u menya ot poslednix neskol'kix takix razoblochenii, [ili popitok] na dushe ostalos' kakoy to protivnii osadok. Doshlo do togo, chto v kagdom novom project pervim delom vidyat plagiyat. Kto to predlagal kak domashnoye zadaniye iskat' otkuda V.B. spyer svoyi raboti. komu to pokazalos', chto dowload.com skopiroval u nego ... ![]() KOnechno eto delo kajdogo, no pri vsem ETOM{ne xochu raskrit' skobki}... stoit vse taki soblyudat' kakuyu to "vnutrennuyu etiku" - ili nepisannii zakon ??? Neznayu, nezayu ... hayavari - axper vonc tenc klini, ba vor bac-bac asem u nexana..." prichyem tut eto? tak i tak.. ti govorish ili napishesh emu ob etom, i esli on sobiraetsya obijatsya, on tak i tak obidetsya ... v pervom sluchaye on obidetsya, razozlitsya ... i vse chto ugodno, vo vtorom ti prilyudno ego unijaesh... ti tol'ko smotri, skol'ko postingom bivaet posle konkretnogo razoblocheniya? vse pochemu to svoim svyatim dolgom schitayut skazat' paru laskovix v address "prestupnika" ![]() V nashe vremya bil takoy zakon "Lejavshego ne biyut"... no naverno seychas vremena izmenilis' ![]() |
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Профессор Join Date: 01 2002 Location: New York, USA
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Esim, mnogie "lezhachie" uporno sebya takovymi ne priznayut, i naskol'ko mne izvestno, pokazyvaya "portfolio" splosh iz vorovannyx site-ov, otbivayut u drugix zakazy. Kak po-tvoemu ne stoit li takim paru raz "vrezat'", chtoby i drugim ne povadno bylo? I eshe: v sluchaye s hay.am, webmaster ne stal "razmazyvat' sopli" (c)VB, publichno izvinilsya za ne svoy fault i na etom "bazar" zaglox. V to zhe vremya drugie (i ty znayesh' o kom rech) malo togo voruyut design, no eshe i agressivno naezzhayut na drugix, ustraivayut "konkursy webdesigna" i krichat kakie oni krutye. Kak tut byt', chto skazhesh'? |
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Groul lyudi razniye bivayut ... U onix uma na stol'ko xvataet, chtobi srazu je dat' zadnii xod (k slovu izvinitsya), a drugiye nachinayut uporno, and glupo otpiratsya, chto kak raz eshe xuje -(worse) ![]() a po povodu vrezat', chtob drugim podavno bilo ... ne dumayu, chto etot metod prinisyet svoyi plodi ... tak, lyudey ne uchat ili ne vospitivayut. to, chto webmaster izvnilsya, eto emu delayet chesti (xotya ochen' somnevayus', chto on ne bil v kurse - ![]() Vot, kak raz v dannom sluchaye bilo bi pravil'no skazat' emu ob etom v private. v etom sluchaye ne postradal bi i ego avtoritet, i dlya nas ne bilo bi temi dlya razgovora. to, chto oni otbivayut u drugix zakazi,,,,, tak eto vsegda budet. tak i tak. vrezesh ti emu ili net. odnomu vrezali (daje po krupnomu), {ot chego mne samomu ne po sebe bilo}, on kak ti govorish konkursi ustrayivayet ![]() Itog: bolshe vrezesh-> pobol'she konkursov-> bolshe novix spesialistom-> razvitiye armnet-a -> moget bit' daje strana stanet na nogi-> esli tak smotret', tvoyim metod kak min na Grant potyanet ![]() P.s. ti ne budesh protiv, esli ya napishu programmu "razvitiye armneta" vzyav v osnovu etot metod??? ili eto doje plagiat ![]() |
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Kooper Join Date: 05 2002 Location: Hay.am Portal Age: 44
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Raz uzh zashla rech obo mne, to mozhno ya tozhe vyskazhus'. Ya sovershenno ne v obide na Vagr-a. On mog mne ukazat' na plagiat i v private, i v topike, tak kak topic byl otkryt dlya kritiki (v tom chisle i takoj). Nash proekt real'no ochen' sil'no ot etogo postradal potomu chto, ya uzhe prakticheski podgotovil neskol'ko scriptov, optimizirovannyx imenno pod etot design, a teper' u menya vse stoit na meste. No v lyubom sluchae, esli by ya ob etom uznal pozzhe, to eto moglo poprostu privetsi k zakrytiyu proekta. Ya nikogda ne ****alsya designerom sajta, poskol'ku ya prosto naprosto risovat' ne umeyu, na hay.am -e ya webmaster i webprogrammer, odnako za soderzhimoe otvechat' prixoditsya mne, poskol'ku ya eshe i web admin. Sejchas mne fakticheski prixoditsya rabotat' imenno nad designom, a tak kak ya risovat' ne umeyu, to xudozhestvennuyu chast' raboty vypolnyayut xudozhniki Nana Aramyan i Narek Avetisyan (To Ruben Malayan: qez barevum ein ![]() Chto dejstvitel'no bylo nepriyatno, tak eto radostnoe ulyulyukanie nekotoryx lyudej, posle postinga Vagr-a. i eshe, ya nikogda nikakix konkursov ne ustraivayu. Bolee togo redko kogo kritikuyu imenno za DESIGN potomu kak ya sam ne designer. Esli zhe u menya byvaet zakaz, to obychno on svyazan s napisaniem scripta, a ne designom stranicy, esli klient trebuet vysokoklassnogo designa, to eto uzhe delayu ne ya. I eshe spaibo Groulu z ponimanie i za predlozhennuyu podderzhku. |
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Младенец Join Date: 05 2002 Location: Tel Aviv, Israel Age: 50
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Mmmmmda, stranno kak to. Ya chesno govoria soglasen s tem shto edistvennii put borbi s plagiatom eto publichnaya kritika. Ya vot sel napisal reply, mnogo vsiakix "kezzek, aprek, shat lavna" i esho paru poleznix sovetov. Vse eto ya bi ne delal esli bi znal shto design vorovanii, i k tomu je hay.am porabotal paru chasov i zaglox, prichem mne prishlos' peredelivat' svoii html i ubirat' linki na guestbook ot hay.am .... glupo i poterya vremeni, da i potom kak to uje i kritiku ne oxota pisat' poka ne budesh znat' shto xotia bi kritikuesh shtobi polzu prinesti. ps. Spasibo za privet ot Narek a, tolko mne shto to somnitelno shto on nad takim design om rabotayet, Narek Avetissian sin Minas a i potriasayushii xudojnik. Im na hay.am i ne paxnet. pss. Kooper, po krainei mere obyasni shto s vashim site om proisxodit? problems with network? |
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Kooper Join Date: 05 2002 Location: Hay.am Portal Age: 44
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my s NArek-om sejcghas rabotaem, hay.am/new i hay.am kotoryj sejchas ne Narek delal ![]() ![]() |
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2 Cooper Kogda govoril o konkursax rech' shla ne o tebe ![]() Davi ponyal o kom ya... 2 15levels hamozvace em, vor inqy Koopery kap chuni ajd thach epizodi het. Isk qo canot designernery nor en sksel ashxatanqy designi vra u der voch mi ban irenc aracneric drvac chka. incheve, proexali. |
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Kooper Join Date: 05 2002 Location: Hay.am Portal Age: 44
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esli est' vremya posmotrite http://212.73.71.158/new/ |
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