25.05.2002, 03:10
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Po povodu punkta 2:
A komu on, voobshe-to nujen?
Ya ne sovsem xorosho predstvalyayu sebe situaciyu, kogda ryadovomu user - u nado shifrovat' svoi soobsheniya?
Kstati, a kakim bokom kreditki svyazany s etoj programmkoj?
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25.05.2002, 04:02
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Eta programma i ne prednaznachalas' dlya obychnyx pol'zovatelej.
Ona sozdavalas' kak orientirovannyj na vnutrikorporativnye seti IM system.
Chestno govorya, ponyatija ne imeyu s chem svyazano ix reshenie "vypustit'" SST vo freenet.
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25.05.2002, 04:12
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Originally posted by groul:
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Ona sozdavalas' kak orientirovannyj na vnutrikorporativnye seti IM system.
Chestno govorya, ponyatija ne imeyu s chem svyazano ix reshenie "vypustit'" SST vo freenet.
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Ok, ob etom ya i govoril....
Xotya, s drugoj storony, pomoemy na rynke est' dostatochno programm takogo tipa. Neponyatno stremlenie avtorov izobresti velosiped.
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25.05.2002, 04:51
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> Neponyatno stremlenie avtorov izobresti velosiped.
Ne sovsem ulovil sut' poslednego vyskazyvaniya...
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25.05.2002, 05:10
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Quote:
Originally posted by groul:
Neponyatno stremlenie avtorov izobresti velosiped.
Ne sovsem ulovil sut' poslednego vyskazyvaniya...
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Imelos' vvidu, chto na rynke dostatochno programm obmena soobsheniyami.
S drugoj storony, kak my znaem, razrabotka programm - dorogoj, riskovannyj i dlitel'nyj process.
Vyvod: deshevle, nadejnee i proshe bylo by poiskat' chto-libo sredi imeyushixsya programm, i vybrat' samoe podxodyashee.
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25.05.2002, 06:28
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Yesli tak dumat', to nikto krome Microsoft ne dolzhen proizvodit' operacionnyx system 
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25.05.2002, 07:33
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Originally posted by groul:
Yesli tak dumat', to nikto krome Microsoft ne dolzhen proizvodit' operacionnyx system
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groul, est' raznica mejdu Linux vs Windows xxx,
i, naprimer, NetMeeting vs "Some Home Made Messenger".
Dumayu, ne trebuetsya obyasnyat', v chem eta raznica sostoit, ne tak li?
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25.05.2002, 07:55
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ICQ tozhe nachinalas' kak "some home made messnger", tak zhe kak i Odigo, i Trillian...
I ne bylo by ICQ, esli by oni dumali: "Ax, a zachem mne pisat' ICQ, esli uzhe est' AIM?"
Ya pomnyu vremena, kogda v ICQ bylo zaregistrirovano azh 300,000 pol'zovatelej 
Yesli tak dumat', to nichego novogo nikogda vydumyvat' ne nado...
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25.05.2002, 13:34
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Ya pomnyu vremena, kogda v ICQ bylo zaregistrirovano azh 300,000 pol'zovatelej
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Pomnyat eto mnogie... Izvinite, esli razocharoval.
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Yesli tak dumat', to nichego novogo nikogda vydumyvat' ne nado...
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V eto, groul, i zaklyuchaetsya problema armyanskogo software developmenta: vse zanimayutsya vydumyvaniem, a ne resheniem problem....
Izvinite, no ya ne veryu v vozmojnost' osushestvleniya polnogo ciklarazrabotki massovyx programm v Armenii.
Na segodnyashnij den' eto nereal'no!!
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25.05.2002, 16:30
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MNe ocen' nravitysa SST, eshe malo fichek, sama konceptsiya i ideya mne ocen' ponravilos' ) tak derjat'.
(do icq doydet ))
BTW Gates ti uchastvoval v ego razrabotke?
Che joxovurd shat lavna.
BTW
Tam est' stuki kotori dlya userov xoroshe no ne znau kak na eto otreagiruet naprimer server
pri poiske kak ya ponyal vse soovpodeniya vividyatsa, no predstav' podxodit 40000 userov  )
1. server-traffic
2. client-slow connection
no koncno icq eto izvrat ctoi vsego 40 sovpadeniy )
Udachi s etim proektom, i esli ne lsojno rasskajitete imeetes li SERVER SST pod Unix podobnie systemi, i cto nado zdelat' cto geo zaimet'
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25.05.2002, 19:06
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zhogh jan mi kerp regist ari !!!
MERSINER !!!
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yasoes asats zerkalni nomer !!!
TYOMA
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25.05.2002, 19:38
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Quote:
Originally posted by groul:
Eta programma i ne prednaznachalas' dlya obychnyx pol'zovatelej.
Ona sozdavalas' kak orientirovannyj na vnutrikorporativnye seti IM system.
Chestno govorya, ponyatija ne imeyu s chem svyazano ix reshenie "vypustit'" SST vo freenet.
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Groul jan, ti pra
eto Armeniya " [email protected]" prosto-to tak gcecin, hetagayum Hamahaykakan messanger darna. Bajc freeneti SST-in darela hoyakap testi dasht
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Originally posted by Tumanyan:
Imelos' vvidu, chto na rynke dostatochno programm obmena soobsheniyami.
S drugoj storony, kak my znaem, razrabotka programm - dorogoj, riskovannyj i dlitel'nyj process.
Vyvod: deshevle, nadejnee i proshe bylo by poiskat' chto-libo sredi imeyushixsya programm, i vybrat' samoe podxodyashee.
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Mojesh' mne nazvat' neskol'ko korparativnix messangerov?
SST-i imeet svoj sector rinka, to chto u nego malo global'nix pol'zavatelej, eto nikak ne vliyaet na ego prodavaemost', eto daje vkakoj to mere plus. I ti nezabivaej chto eto programma pishetsya v Armeenii i nesravnimo deshevle chem zapadnie analogi.
VX jan, sapsibo za teplie slova, ya lichno practicheskie ne prinimal uchastie v napisanie etoj progi, no nadaval im kuchu idej, i spisok bugov.
Na schet poiska est' ogranichenie, tochno ne pomnyu kakoe, no primerno neskolko sot userov. Naskol'ko ya znayu servera pod Unix net, no esli ti seryozno xochesh zaimet', prixodi k nam v office.
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25.05.2002, 22:09
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Narod samoe interesnoe chto ves narod iz am.commerce-a teper vedut svoyi Bazari na SST.
Vse idyot Zashifrovano i daje Amerikanski Echelon ne v sostayanii prosech nashi bazari po povodu skolko stoyit easycard.
Kruto konechno !!!
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25.05.2002, 23:37
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no koncno icq eto izvrat ctoi vsego 40 sovpadeniy )
Kakie 40??  Dayot vsevo to 20 userov. Eto polni bespredel. !!! Glumlenie nad pravami Chelovekov !!!
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26.05.2002, 04:52
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Originally posted by Mono:
Net nelomaemyx shifrov.... )
Vse delo v cene vzloma.
I neobyazatyel'no, chto vzlomshikom budet chto, ili kto-libo svyazannyj s USA.
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