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Old 21.03.2003, 08:37   #16
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greka, ne pi*di

90% interneta rabotaet na Solaris, FreeBSD i Linux...

A esli brat' uspex v IT industrii, to kak na schet Sun s ego Java VM, kotoraja est' pochti na ljubom desktope, bud' to Win* ili *nix,
kak na schet CISCO, s ix setevym oboroduvaniem, na kotorom rabotajut vse bol'shie seti...

Na schet GUI, tut mojno odnoznachno vse opredelit', t.k. v nashu eru soxranilis' obrazchiki pervyx graficheskix OS s datami pojavlenija na svet (v otlichie ot vremen prorokov Muxameda).

http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor...user_interface

The graphical user interface, or GUI, of Microsoft Windows is based on that of the MacOS (and the earlier unsuccessful Apple Lisa), which in turn used many elements of the work of the Xerox Palo Alto Research Center (PARC), who produced the advanced but commercially unsuccessful Xerox Alto and Xerox Star. The Star's user interface, with visual icons representing computer resources, built upon the work of Doug Engelbart's team at SRI, who developed the first computers with a device called a mouse used to move a pointer on a graphic display.

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Beginning in 1979, led by Jef Raskin, the Macintosh team at Apple Computer (which included former members of the Xerox PARC group) continued to develop such ideas in the first commercially successful product to use a GUI, the Apple Macintosh, released in 1984. In 2001 Apple introduced Mac OS X.

PC innovations introduced or popularized by Macintosh:

Graphical user interface, icons, the desktop, etc.
Use of mouse and other pointing devices on personal computer
WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get)
Long file names
PostScript Laser printer
Desktop publishing
SCSI
first to make audio (both speakers and microphone) a built-in computer feature
spanning the window desktop over multiple monitors
Ethernet support comes as standard feature
USB, though designed for PC, but was put in popular use by Apple leading the first step.
FireWire also known as IEEE 1394 (in PC world) or iLink (by SONY)
AirPort also known as IEEE 802.11b
riddance of floppy drive in standard computer configuration.
RISC architecture
Aesthetic industrial design applied on Computer hardware.



Kstati, poljubujtes' na somyj krasivyj GUI ot Mac: Aqua Human Interface: http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/...nes/index.html

WinXP SOSET!!!!

MS - massovyj shirpotreb... specializirovannye prilojenija dlja nauki i proizvodstva vsegda pisalis' otdel'no, na otdel'nyx platformax i arxitekturax... Eto vse ravno chto govorit' o Kirkorove, mol smotrite, skol'ko u nego poklonnikov, pust' (skajem ) Meschjan popytaetsja dobitsja ego populjarnosti...
Kak ljubit govorit' Ashuna, ne nado putat' bojij dar s jaichnicoj
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Old 24.03.2003, 07:13   #17
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Old 24.03.2003, 19:19   #18
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Old 24.03.2003, 19:59   #19
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> Java VM, kotoraja est' pochti na ljubom desktope, bud' to Win* ili *nix,

My 2 cents
Sun-овская JVM мрет и дохнет под XP. Ох и я намучался, пока суд не принудил M$ поставить свой JVM для отдельного от Service Pack 1 download-а.
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Originally posted by Kooper

Naprimer MP3 poslushat' posle ustanovki RH 8.0 kak to ne poluchaetsya
zaydi na www.xmms.org u nix na servere lejit specialniy rpm-chik (kak bi patch k XMMS', ya v svoe vremaya skachal daje, no seychas etogo file-a u menya net ) kotoriy
pozvolyaet proigrivat' .mp3 v XMMS (pod RH8).
A ti kstati proboval mpeg321 (ili mpeg123) , eti programmi rabotayut v textovom rejime i pozvolyayut slushat' mp3, u nix kuch features (tipa shuffle, playlist itd itp).


P.S. Sorry chto meshayu vashemu holy war-u... , no windoze deystvitelno mustDie
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Old 25.03.2003, 08:32   #21
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znayu , skachal propatchil , prosto nadoelo , stavish' a potom ishi kak chto nastroit' .....

a pro mpeg123 ne slyshal, kstati v textovom rezhiome eto cool , a mozhno ustroit' chtob ono rabotalo voobshe bez zaxoda v X-y ?
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znayu , skachal propatchil , prosto nadoelo , stavish' a potom ishi kak chto nastroit' .....

a pro mpeg123 ne slyshal, kstati v textovom rezhiome eto cool , a mozhno ustroit' chtob ono rabotalo voobshe bez zaxoda v X-y ?
Privet,

Ya tam nepravil'no napisal eta proga nazivaetsya mpg123 (a ne mpeg123) , da ,
ti zaprosto mojesh eyu pol'zovatysa ne zazxodya v X.

Ya naprimer delayu tak
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[kuku@somewhere home]% (mpg123 -q -z /home/myMusic/*/*)&
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I takim obrazom u menya etot shell ne zakrivaetsya (systema vozvrashaet shell, a -z ya delayu dlya shuffle-a).

Wishes

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P.S. esli u tebya vdrug ne okajetsya mpg123 mojesh porpobovat' mpg321 (eto po moemu odno i to je)
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*nix 4ever
a Windows i kak Server i kak Workstation suxx.
Tolko v igr@ igrat mojno(komfortnee).
Xotya iz linux-a iz emulatora mojno igrat
kstati lyubimaya igra TuxRacer.
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Cisco forewer!!!

Linux and Windows as router SUX !!!!
Na nix toko mail i httpd stavit' mozhno.... (moj lyubimiyj mail server sendmail)
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Old 27.03.2003, 20:30   #25
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kooper, ne ottopyrivajsja!

man iproute2

on rulit poluchshe cisco mojet k primeru derjat' 255 tablic routinga odnovremenno....

drugoe delo, chto chastota shiny PC ne pozvolit rabotat' tak-je bystro, ka i special'noe cisco-jelezo...
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Old 27.03.2003, 20:38   #26
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xe xe , da on budet derzhat' stoko tablic rooutinga , kogda ty ix propishesh'

A ya prosto zapushu IEGRP i cisco mne ix sam sozdast

a kak nashet shaperov ??? gimornoe delo... a trunkovye protokoluy??
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blin, govorju-je vse eto tam est'

esche raz man iproute2

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[root@MyTestServer RPMS]# man iproute
No manual entry for iproute
[root@MyTestServer RPMS]# man iproute2
No manual entry for iproute2

kak vidish u menya netu manuala . Itak pokazhi plz kak nastroit' iproutom linux-a shaper (toko esli eto shape.cfg i ifup i ifdown to ne nado ... ya znakom s nimi... ) , dinamicheskij routing , i trunkovyj kanal.

P.S. voobshe to ya zametil, chto esli profi po linuxu ne znaet otveta na kakoj nibud' vopros, to oni pishut man chto-to tam. Lyudi kogda mne zadayut vopros po vindam, ya ne govoryu nazhmi F1 i budet tebe schast'e ...
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LOL Splitter , ty menya operedil .... Nexorosho ...

BTW a chto takoe ifup i ifdown ??
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da.. sovsem owindozjatilis'.. uje len' za dokoj v inet sxodit', vse im razjuj da podaj...

vo-pervyx iproute2 eto ne komanda a nabor utilit, realizujuschix vozmojnosti kernela Linux, poetomu pisat' man iproute2 v kommandnoj stroke vs ravno chto pisat' man DNS ili man mail ...

dlja osobo odarennyx, doka tut: http://www.linuxgrill.com/iproute2-toc.html

dlja lenivyx, doka po tomu, kak s iproute2 organizovat' shaper:
http://dolphin.knowhow.am/bb/files/iproute2traff.pdf

dlja menee linivyx, www.google.com vam v zuby

A pod win nikogda ne bylo i ne mojet byt' podobnyx utilit, potomu chto kernel ne podderjivaet podobnye izvraty.... tak chto "bogaten'kim" win* useram pridetsja idti i pokupat' cisco ....
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