12.08.2005, 09:16
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Борец с бояном
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Originally Posted by imli
Может раньше не было, но теперь может и будет.
Не будем гадать, время покажет.
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(шепотом) вы имеете ввиду это Асид закрыл все конкурирующие форумы?
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12.08.2005, 09:25
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#107
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Главный Лысый
Join Date: 10 2001
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Originally Posted by imli
Вот я и удивляюсь, как они стороной обходят столь важный сайт - проект как PanARMENIAN Network ( http://www.panarmenian.net/ ), им наверное слабо тягаться с вами Паскаль, вы такой первоклассный специалист, что куда им слабакам с вами тягаться. Хотя с другой стороны кому нужно трогать этот сайт, ведь проку от этого никакого, а вот путем атаки форумов можно охватить обширные массы.
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Vy priglashaete hackerov proverit' moy site na vshivost'?
No oni eto delayut s 2000-go goda....
I eto khorosho.
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Но наверное они и до вашего сайта дойдут рано или поздно, посовещаются, может даже помощь из-за рубежа попросят, у специалистов. Но вы так в себе уверены, что наверное даже самые великие хакеры этой планеты не смогут взломать ваш сайт? Наверное ваш сайт недоступен даже самой Матрице, да Паскаль?
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Prosili. Probovali. Pytalis'. Poka site zhivet.
I vam togo zhe Joshua.
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12.08.2005, 09:27
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#108
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Moderator
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Originally Posted by Sauron
(шепотом) вы имеете ввиду это Асид закрыл все конкурирующие форумы?
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Тема атак на форумы раскрыта!
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12.08.2005, 09:35
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#109
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Banned
Join Date: 04 2005
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Originally Posted by Pascal
Vy priglashaete hackerov proverit' moy site na vshivost'?
No oni eto delayut s 2000-go goda....
I eto khorosho.
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Что вы Паскаль, как можно. Как вы могли подумать такое обо мне?!
Т.е. вы неплохо натренировались и дошли до уровня Дао.
Воистину нет вам равных на земле.
Я знал что вы получаете от таких вещей удовольствие.
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Prosili. Probovali. Pytalis'. Poka site zhivet.
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Помните мультик про львенка «Не говори, что силен, встретишь более сильного».
Я рад, что в Армении есть специалист способный обеспечить столь высокий уровень защиты серверов. Будет к кому обратиться когда будет нужно.
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12.08.2005, 09:37
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#110
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Originally Posted by acid
Тема атак на форумы раскрыта!
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12.08.2005, 09:37
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#111
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Борец с бояном
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ИМХО тема накрылась маразмом
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12.08.2005, 09:40
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Вот почему форум назвали АрмКБ, на самом деле имелось ввиду АрмКГБ!
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12.08.2005, 09:43
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#113
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Главный Лысый
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Originally Posted by Sauron
ИМХО тема накрылась маразмом
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Kak vsegda, gde poyavlyaetsya Joshua.
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12.08.2005, 09:44
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#114
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Слушай Имли я Имли.
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12.08.2005, 09:50
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Главный Лысый
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
Common types of troll messages or activities:
- On Flickr Fubuki, a prominent member of the online picture sharing community, posted a badly captured photograph of a toilet roll to a group whose modus operandi is to delete bad photographs. This was a troll, not because the subject matter was bad, but because it was deliberately done to bait the forum. In a strange twist of fortunes this photograph went on to have the highest Interestingness on Flickr on the day it was posted.
- Off topic messages — "Can anyone help me make a web page?" "No, this is a music forum."
- Inflammatory messages — "You are an idiot for including this type of message in your list."
- Messages containing an obvious flaw or error — "I think 2001: A Space Odyssey is Roman Polanski's best movie."
- Intentionally naïve or politically contentious messages — "I think George W. Bush is the best/worst President ever."
- Intentionally posting an outrageous argument deliberately constructed around a fundamental but obfuscated flaw or error; often the poster will become defensive when the argument is refuted but may instead continue the thread through the use of further flawed arguments; this is referred to as "feeding" the troll.
- A subclass of the above is the flawed proof of an important unsolved mathematical problem or impossibility (e.g. 1 = 2); however these may not always be troll-posts and are sometimes at least mathematically interesting.
- Bumping an older discussion, or rehashing a highly controversial past topic, particularly in smaller online communities.
- A new USENET newsgroup alt.genius.bill-palmer was created by Igor Chudov for the purpose of creating an outlet for discussing a controversial USENET personality Bill Palmer, himself an alleged USENET troll who managed to make his personality the center of all discussions. A swirl of messages attempting to disprove his alleged status as genius, crossposted to hell and back, made a.g.b-p the most popular new alt.* newsgroup of the year. Its creator was nominated for Troll of the year 1996 award.
- Including offensive media such as annoying sound files or disturbing pictures in a message, or linking to shock sites that contain such media. Often these links are disguised as legitimate links.
- After a flamewar ensues, pretending to be innocent
- Posting plot spoilers to popular movies and books without warning, sometimes surreptitiously buried in an otherwise innocuous message
- Posting politically sensitive images in inappropriate places
- Off-topic complaints about personal life; sometimes this is the "cry for help" troll.
- Deliberate and repeated misspelling of other people's nicks in order to disturb or irritate them in a conversation.
- Plural or paranoid answers to personal opinions expressed by individuals — "I don't believe that all of you really believe that, you are teaming against me."
- Insulting people for bad grammar, which can be a highly sensitive topic; obvious overuse of bad grammar, or AIM-speak; or even insulting people for bad grammar while employing bad grammar, for an "ironic" effect that can often call people to call them out on their hypocrisy.
- Any combination of the above. For example a troll will combine inflammatory statements with poor grammar and AIM-speak. "lmfao you foctard u are so weak minded and predictablei thought i wan iggied i play ya like a card"
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12.08.2005, 09:50
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#116
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На этом тема закрыта, а imli получает предупреждение за нападки на юзера Pascal-а.
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