July/7

[arabaliozian]

Thursday, July 05, 2007
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AN INSIGHTFUL COMMENT
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In what follows I will try to abridge and paraphrase the comments of a reader who, for reasons of his own, prefers to remain anonymous.
“One way to explain the difference between the dignified silence of our forefathers who witnessed the massacres and experienced the deportations, and the verbal diarrhea of the present generation is to say that the first were victims of historic conditions and forces beyond their control and understanding, and the second victims of political rhetoric.”
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A CASE OF PROJECTION
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When some of my Armenian critics, who belong to the trashcan or verbal-abuse school of criticism, attribute to me words and ideas that are not mine, I have every reason to suspect they are projecting their own secret thoughts, which until then they did not dare to admit even to themselves.
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WRITERS AND PUNDITS
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Writers may be divided into those who write about many different things, and those who write about the same thing in different ways. There are also those who think just because they have conventional wisdom and the establishment on their side, they must be infallible and anyone who disagrees with them must be traitors, renegades, and enemies of the nation. It never even occurs to them that they may be victims of political rhetoric or propaganda, that is to say, verbal pollution.
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Friday, July 06, 2007
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BASTARDS
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“Literature needs freedom to thrive,” says an Armenian character in Elif Shafak’s THE BASTARD OF ISTANBUL, and goes on: “We didn’t have much of that to expand and enlarge Armenian literature, did we?”
This fictional character and Elif Shafak seem to be unaware of the fact that we had a vibrant literature and far better writers under the Sultan, Talaat, and Stalin than we do today when we enjoy more freedom and financial prosperity than at any other time in our history. That’s because, in the words of Hagop Garabents (also Jack Karapetian), “Once upon a time we shed our blood for freedom. We are now afraid of free speech.”
Please note that, unlike Gostan Zarian (“Our political parties have been of no political use to us: their greatest enemy is free speech”) Garabents was neither a dissident nor a critic. On the contrary, he was on excellent terms with our bosses, bishops, and benefactors.
Instead of literature we now have anti-Turkish propaganda (the bastard of Armenian literature…or is it an abortion?).
We have been traumatized, yes, certainly, no one denies that. But after making that assertion, the question we should ask ourselves is: Do we make an obsession of the trauma or do we seek a way out of the darkness that has paralyzed our creative impetus?
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Saturday, July 07, 2007
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THE ARMENO-TURKISH COMPLEX
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In Elif Shafak’s THE BASTARD OF ISTANBUL I read the following lines delivered by an Armenian-American: “Some among the Armenians in the diaspora would never want the Turks to recognize the genocide. If they do so, they’ll pull the rug out from under our feet and take the strongest bond that unites us. Just like the Turks have been in the habit of denying their wrongdoing, the Armenians have been in the habit of savoring the cocoon of victimhood. Apparently, there are some old habits that need to be changed on both sides.”
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Conventional wisdom becomes unconventional folly bordering on mass hysteria when it turns into intolerance of criticism and dissent.
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Every propaganda line, regardless of its absurdity, will have a series of facts and reasons that support it.
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[Armenchik]

Originally Posted by arabaliozian

Thursday, July 05, 2007
**************************************
AN INSIGHTFUL COMMENT
**************************************
In what follows I will try to abridge and paraphrase the comments of a reader who, for reasons of his own, prefers to remain anonymous.
“One way to explain the difference between the dignified silence of our forefathers who witnessed the massacres and experienced the deportations, and the verbal diarrhea of the present generation is to say that the first were victims of historic conditions and forces beyond their control and understanding, and the second victims of political rhetoric.”
*
A CASE OF PROJECTION
***********************************
When some of my Armenian critics, who belong to the trashcan or verbal-abuse school of criticism, attribute to me words and ideas that are not mine, I have every reason to suspect they are projecting their own secret thoughts, which until then they did not dare to admit even to themselves.
*
WRITERS AND PUNDITS
*********************************
Writers may be divided into those who write about many different things, and those who write about the same thing in different ways. There are also those who think just because they have conventional wisdom and the establishment on their side, they must be infallible and anyone who disagrees with them must be traitors, renegades, and enemies of the nation. It never even occurs to them that they may be victims of political rhetoric or propaganda, that is to say, verbal pollution.
#
Friday, July 06, 2007
*************************************
BASTARDS
************************
“Literature needs freedom to thrive,” says an Armenian character in Elif Shafak’s THE BASTARD OF ISTANBUL, and goes on: “We didn’t have much of that to expand and enlarge Armenian literature, did we?”
This fictional character and Elif Shafak seem to be unaware of the fact that we had a vibrant literature and far better writers under the Sultan, Talaat, and Stalin than we do today when we enjoy more freedom and financial prosperity than at any other time in our history. That’s because, in the words of Hagop Garabents (also Jack Karapetian), “Once upon a time we shed our blood for freedom. We are now afraid of free speech.”
Please note that, unlike Gostan Zarian (“Our political parties have been of no political use to us: their greatest enemy is free speech”) Garabents was neither a dissident nor a critic. On the contrary, he was on excellent terms with our bosses, bishops, and benefactors.
Instead of literature we now have anti-Turkish propaganda (the bastard of Armenian literature…or is it an abortion?).
We have been traumatized, yes, certainly, no one denies that. But after making that assertion, the question we should ask ourselves is: Do we make an obsession of the trauma or do we seek a way out of the darkness that has paralyzed our creative impetus?
#
Saturday, July 07, 2007
*************************************
THE ARMENO-TURKISH COMPLEX
**********************************************
In Elif Shafak’s THE BASTARD OF ISTANBUL I read the following lines delivered by an Armenian-American: “Some among the Armenians in the diaspora would never want the Turks to recognize the genocide. If they do so, they’ll pull the rug out from under our feet and take the strongest bond that unites us. Just like the Turks have been in the habit of denying their wrongdoing, the Armenians have been in the habit of savoring the cocoon of victimhood. Apparently, there are some old habits that need to be changed on both sides.”
*
Conventional wisdom becomes unconventional folly bordering on mass hysteria when it turns into intolerance of criticism and dissent.
*
Every propaganda line, regardless of its absurdity, will have a series of facts and reasons that support it.
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Do you have any idea what I am talking about?
I think “One way to explain the difference between the dignified silence of our forefathers who witnessed the massacres and experienced the deportations and the verbal diarrhea of the present generation is a lot of things.
I think there might be a few exception.Are you a student?
Where are they?*WRITERS AND PUNDITS********************************* Writers may be divided into those who write about many different things and those who write about the same thing in different ways never even occurs to them that they may be victims of political rhetoric or propaganda that is to say verbal pollution? Quite honestly, I wouldn't worry myself about that.
What happened to it?
Let us change the subject.
Do you think I am now afraid of free speech too?Are they exactly the same?
What is
on the contrary I was on excellent terms with our bosses bishops and benefactors

like on the contrary I was on excellent terms with our bosses bishops and benefactors.Ah, well in that case. That is something I haven't heard of.And then what happened?Interesting.
What was it like before making that assertion the question we should ask ourselves is Do we make an obsession of the trauma or do we seek a way out of the darkness that has paralyzed our creative impetus ?Who are you talking about?
Let's wait and see what they do.In many ways, yes. In other ways, no.Where are they?Is that from ?
"it" being ”*Conventional wisdom becomes unconventional folly bordering on mass hysteria when it turns into intolerance of criticism and dissent?Is that from ?

[Moonlight]

i see u finally found an interlocutor in Armenchik:P congrats:P

[Armenchik]

Originally Posted by Moonlight

i see u finally found an interlocutor in Armenchik:P congrats:P

I haven't heard anything like that before:
said I finally found an interlocutor in ArmenchikP congratsP.