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25.08.2002, 01:23
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Sovershenstvo ot Ansel Adams
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25.08.2002, 01:25
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25.08.2002, 02:24
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klassika!
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25.08.2002, 03:01
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Quote:
Originally posted by groul:
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Da uzh... Poroy tyanet shvirut` kameru kuda podal`she, glyadya na etu krasotu - vse ravno nichego dazhe otdalenno poxozhego ne sdelat`...
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25.08.2002, 04:15
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Ne vsyo tak ploxo.
Vo-pervyx pro. fotografy vybirayut dlya pokaza 1 fotku iz 200, ostalnye idut v musor.
Vo-vtoryx, pri nadlezhashej upornosti, podgotovke (teorii i praktike) i talante (pri etom ne obyazatelno kakom-to osobennom) mozhno dostich esli ne tex zhe, no xotya by blizkix rezultatov.
Drugoe delo, chto pochti nikto iz prisustvuyushix na etom forume ne zanimaetsya fotografiej professionalno (full time), po 8-10 chasov v den'.
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25.08.2002, 05:15
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200 - eto eshe slishkom optimistichno
Vse eto konechno verno, ya i sam nemnogo vremeni trachu na eto delo. no dazhe luchshie prof. fotografi v kachestve ustupayut Adamsu, na moy vzglyad. ustupayut imenno v etom stremlenii k sovershestvovaniyu. Adams bil prosto unikalen v tom s kakoy tshatel`nostyu on podoxodil k viboru apparaturi dlya s'emki, mestu, vremeni, osvesheniyu, plenke, bumage, sposobu projavki, otpechatki, obrabotki. Ya videl mnogo rabot razlichnix professionalnix xudozhnikov. Mnogie s nim mogut sravnitsya s Adamsom v smisle xudozhestvennosti, no v plane texniki ch/b fotografii - nikogda.
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25.08.2002, 05:50
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Hamadzain em. Ne isklyucheno, pravda, chto est' "demqer" o kotoryx ne znaem...
P.S. u menya brak: 999 out of 1000.
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25.08.2002, 06:59
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Oho ! ti tak mnogo snimaesh
Karogha kan, bayts te dzhvar. B/W photon hima etqan popular chi.
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25.08.2002, 07:35
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Cifrovaya kamera + dve karty na kotoroj pomeshaetsya po 163 kartinok razmerom ~2048x1500
t.e. mogu pozvolit' sebe roskosh sdelat' 100 snimkov odnogo obyekta v raznyx usloviyax i rakursax, i potom vybrat' luchshij kadr (esli on voobshe byvaet)
xotya po-moemu budet pravilnej ne poskupitsya, kupit' normalnuyu kameru s xoroshej optikoj, i vzyat' kakie nibud' kursy po fotografii. togda i kachestvennyx fotok budet bolshe.
cherno belaya fotografiya vse eshe aktualna, tak zhe kak i risunok karandashom ili skulptura. IMHO.
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25.08.2002, 09:09
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A, nu cifrovaya - eto drugoe delo. A to razoritsya mozhno na plenke v takom kol-ve
Ya tozhe podumivayu kupit` cufrovuyu kameru potomu, chto vse ravno ya fotografii obrabativayu na PhSh, no nikak ne reshu v kakom cenovom diapazone vybirat`. Projavka i obrabotka plenki ochen` dorogo obxoditsya i esli ne zanimat`sya etim professional`no, to eto neopravdaanaya trata deneg. Samomu proyavlyat` cvetnuyu plenku nereal`no, tak chto nado perexodit` na BW, vidimo. Imenno potomu David Tolpin na BW snimaet, kstati.
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25.08.2002, 10:50
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K sozhaleniyu nekotorye defecty cifry dazhe photoshop ne v sostoyanii ispravit'.
Chto kasaetsya razoritsya na plenke, ty prav. Poetomu mne i xochestsya na kakie nibud' kursy poyti chtoby snizit' procent braka.
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25.08.2002, 12:18
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Karen, a zachem tebe kursi ? Est` zhe kucha literaturi po fotografii, kupi pochitay. Ya goda dva nazad kupil neploxuyu knizhku: "The photographer's handbook" John Hedgecoe. Nichego osobennogo, est` gorazdo bolee xoroshie knigi, no i etogo dlya nachala vpolne dostatochno. konkretno, chemu ti xochesh nauchitsya na krsax ? ekspoziciyu pravil`no stavit`, rakurs pravil`no vybirat`, kompoziciyu sosravlyat` ? Razbirat`sya v razlichnoy fototexnike ? Vse eto est` v knigax ili na kraynyak v internete.
Ya snimayu na plenku. Kamera - Ricoh KR5, 6-tiletney davnosti, manual, eksponometr sistemi TTL. S ekspoziciey nikogda problem ne bivaet. problemi s drugim - kuda otdavat` na proyavku ? Obichnie laboratorii - eto prosto koshmar, a prof. laboratorii stoyat dorogo, "za kaif" tuda ne poshlesh. Samomu proyavlyat` cvetnuyu plenku po-moemu nevozmozhno voobshe - nuzhna dorogostoyashaja apparatura, tak chto ostaetsya BW. No kak-to ne xochetsya sebya im ogranichivat`, xotja BW ya uvazhayu.
A PhSh - eto vsego lish instrument, vse zavisit ot togo kak umelo mozhesh im pol`zovat`sya, no konechno on chudes ne sovershaet. Esli chto-to bezbozhno peresvetil, k primeru - nikakim PhSh ne ispravish.
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25.08.2002, 21:34
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Esli chto-to bezbozhno peresvetil, k primeru - nikakim PhSh ne ispravish.
Vot i ya pro tozhe
Knigi eto xorosho, no u menya durackij "xasyat" zabrasyvat' na polovine  vsegda naydetsya kakoe nibud' vazhnoe delo...
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